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Do you like/dislike the stalemate rule?


  • 13 months ago · Quote · #41

    cookiemonster161140

    AndyClifton wrote:

    I would like to complain about the rooks moving at all (I mean, it's supposed to be a building, isn't it?).

    But didn't the towers have wheels in "Lord of the Rings?" 

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #42

    MLHennessey

    In my most recent encounter, I dislike the stalemate rule because I had my opponent's king pinned in the corner by my queen and castle.  I wanted to clean out the rest of his positions before claiming a checkmate.  Unfortunately my opponent called a draw and what should have been 30 points added to my blitz score resulted in only a 9 point increase.  So in this instance, I call BS to this stalemate rule.  

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #43

    VULPES_VULPES

    You should consider yourself lucky to be playing this chess.

    In Chinese Chess (Xiang Qi) and other asian chesses, stalemate meant a loss for the one delivering the stalemate. 

    Don't you find that less logical?

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #44

    VULPES_VULPES

    However, I still like the game. It's what makes it more fun and unique.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #45

    chess_kebabs

    wow, they change the chess rules in Xiang Qi? Let me get this right, if I am losing in a Xiang Qi game but I manage to score the stalemate then it's not a draw, it's a loss? What is the point of playing on then to a stalemate?

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #46

    chess_kebabs

    And why was this forum locked for so long and now suddenly reopened? 

    Very weird.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #47

    MLHennessey

    Thanks for the pep talk VULPES_VULPES.  I guess you've given me another reason why I should never play Chinese Chess.  Like ever.  By the way, you want to know lucky?  The Vancouver Canucks making it to Round 1 of the 2012 Stanley Cup Playoffs <<< THAT'S lucky.  

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #48

    chess_kebabs

    A recent stalemate I got.

    http://live.chess.com/live?v=2012041801#g=285965814

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #49

    MLHennessey

    Yeah, here's the recent stalement I was referring to.  

    http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=300823708 

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #50

    bobbyDK

    MLHennessey wrote:

    Yeah, here's the recent stalement I was referring to.  

    http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=300823708 

    you shouldn't care about the knight on the last move just checkmate him with the rook on h8.
    that is the reason why I play against chessmaster it never resigns and I have to prove I can win. It makes all sorts of stalemate traps and therefore I have learned my own way of avoiding stalemate traps. by for example letting pawns walk as long as he has activity he cannot be stalemate. 
    I think stalemate occurs because most people are not used to defend a clear win they are used to an easy win there people resign.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #51

    MLHennessey

    bobbyDK wrote:

    you shouldn't care about the knight on the last move just checkmate him with the rook on h8.
    that is the reason why I play against chessmaster it never resigns and I have to prove I can win. It makes all sorts of stalemate traps and therefore I have learned my own way of avoiding stalemate traps. by for example letting pawns walk as long as he has activity he cannot be stalemate. 
    I think stalemate occurs because most people are not used to defend a clear win they are used to an easy win there people resign.

    Bobby, great insight man.  I will keep a better eye out for those stalemate traps you talk of and also go straight for the checkmate, as opposed to clearing off all of my opponent's pieces.  

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #52

    Helzeth

    allow me to present a masterpiece, sadly without annotations because I lost the book ''the art of defence'' where it's from.

     
    ..That was comical.

    Now for the real position:






  • 12 months ago · Quote · #53

    chess_kebabs

    lol.... 

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #54

    Helzeth

    ^check my post again! I kind of screwed up!

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #55

    chess_kebabs

    just a little.. hehe

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #56

    MLHennessey

    @ Helzeth:  What's sad is that I almost tried those Spiderman king moves. Lol Fail.  

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #57

    MLHennessey

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  • 12 months ago · Quote · #58

    MLHennessey

    Again...wtf.  Lol  

    http://live.chess.com/live?v=2012051801#g=301220104   

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #59

    VULPES_VULPES

    chess_kebabs wrote:

    wow, they change the chess rules in Xiang Qi? Let me get this right, if I am losing in a Xiang Qi game but I manage to score the stalemate then it's not a draw, it's a loss? What is the point of playing on then to a stalemate?

    No, they did not. I was referring to our chess and the stalemate rule that makes it unique. You misunderstand.

    As for your second question.

    Playing a losing game in Chinese culture probably meant vanity. A stalemate would be looked down upon as a desperate action to achieve something that will be unsuccessful. 

    In other words, the reasons for the stalemate-equals-loss rule is that

    a) all they see is success or failure - no draw. Once you've a disadvantage in terms of material or position, they believe that that player is "destined" for loss and shame.

    b) the failure to checkmate the opponent but stalemating him/her/it is frowned upon. Why try to kill the opponent if you can't succeed?

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #60

    chess_kebabs

    VULPES_VULPES wrote:

    b) the failure to checkmate the opponent but stalemating him/her/it is frowned upon. Why try to kill the opponent if you can't succeed?

    To stop your opponent killing you. Laughing


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