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FIDE Ratings


  • 21 months ago · Quote · #1

    ChessisGood

    What are the requirements for getting a FIDE rating?

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #2

    ChessisGood

    I've heard a lot of conflict here. Some people say you have to play nine FIDE-rated players while others say three. Can anyone resolve this?

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #3

    blowerd

    ChessisGood wrote:

    What are the requirements for getting a FIDE rating?

    You need to enter an official FIDe rated tournament and play 9 games. 

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #4

    Scottrf

    So it sounds like if you get the first three games out of the way, if you lose the next two you'd be better off losing the third than drawing.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #5

    hicetnunc

    I don't think the clock is reset after the first 3 games.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #6

    Elubas

    Ok, so I have the first three FIDE games where you have to get a certain amount. So from there, if I were to, hypothetically, play in a tournament with two fide players, then play one more in another tournament, and scored at least .5 among them, three more games would be counted? But if from there I play three more people with a fide rating, and lose all three, you are saying my clock gets reset and I have to start from the beginning again?

    In any event, I cannot imagine who conjured up this unfathomable process just to have a rating Smile

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #7

    ohsnapzbrah

    Do you have to pay FIDE fees? Because I've been in one FIDE rated tournament. It shows my name, my birth year, and that I've played 5 games but shows no stats other than I won one, drew one, and lost three. 

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #9

    Elubas

    Ok, thanks for clearing that up. If that 1 year thing exists, that could be tough for me, because I rarely get the opportunity to play a lot of FIDE rated games. Hopefully I'll manage to squeeze in enough of them.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #11

    johnyoudell

    These appear to be the rules

    8.2 Determining the Rating 'Ru' in a given event of a previously unrated player.
      8.21

    If an unrated player scores less than 1 point, or he plays fewer than 3 rated opponents in his first rated event, his score is disregarded. In the subsequent events all results, even a zero score, or fewer than 3 games against rated players, are accumulated to his initial ranking. (See 8.3)   
    First determine the average rating of his competition 'Rc'.

      (a) In a Swiss or Team tournament: this is simply the average rating of his opponents.     
    (b) The results of both rated and unrated players in a round robin tournament are taken into account. For unrated players, the average rating of the competition 'Rc' is also the tournament average 'Ra' determined as follows:

     

    (i)  Determine the average rating of the rated players 'Rar'.
    (ii) Determine p for each of the rated players against all their opponents.
    Then determine dp for each of these players.
    Then determine the average of these dp = 'dpa'.
    (iii) 'n' is the number of opponents.
    Ra = Rar - dpa x n/(n+1)

     

      8.22 If he scores 50%, then Ru = Ra
      8.23

    If he scores more than 50%, then Ru = Ra + 15 for each half point scored over 50%

      8.24

    If he scores less than 50% in a Swiss or team tournament:  Ru = Rc + dp 

      8.25 If he scores less than 50% in a round-robin: Ru = Ra + dp x n/(n+1).
    8.3 The Rating Rn which is to be published for a previously unrated player is then determined as if the new player had played all his games so far in one tournament. The initial rating is calculated using the total score against all opponents.
      8.31 Where a player’s first result(s) is less than the FIDE rating floor at the time of the event, the result(s) is ignored.
      8.32 Rn for the FIDE Rating list (FRL) is rounded off to the nearest 1 or zero. 0.5 is rounded up.
      8.33 Only Rn ≥ the FIDE rating floor at the time of the event, are considered.
      8.34

    Example: An unrated player has played 3 games in a tournament against rated players with average rating of 2220, score 1/3; then in another tournament 5 games against rated players with the average of 2150, score 3/5; and then in a third tournament 4 games against rated players with average rating 2200, score 2½/4.          
    The players initial rating is calculated as if he had played 12 games with a score 6½/12.
    The average rating of all opponents is
    (3 x 2220 + 5 x 2150 + 4 x 2200) / 12 = 2184
    The result is 6½/12, it is half a point over 50 percent.
    The new player’s first published rating is 2184 + 15 = 2199

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #12

    johnyoudell

    I'll have a brief look and see if I can construe them.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #14

    ChessisGood

    So if I play nine games, eight of which are against FIDE players, what will happen?

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #15

    johnyoudell

    For the event which starts the clock:

    there must be 3 FIDE rated opponents;

    you must score 1 point or more (in the event, not against those particular 3 opponents); and

    your result (for the tournament, I think) must be above "the FIDE rating floor at the time of the event" (article 8.31).

    After that the clock is never re-set.

    No sign of a 1 year or two year time limit (but there may be a rule about that hiding elsewhere).

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #16

    johnyoudell

    I'll see if I can puzzle out the "FIDE rating floor" thing.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #17

    piphilologist

    If it's a swiss, the 8 games against rated players count.

    If it's a round-robin, all 9 games count.


    last year I played in a round-robin where 8 players were rated, and 1 unrated. However one of the rated players withdrew halfway through the tournament and fillers from a different tournament replaced him; as everybody did not play everybody it did not count as a round-robin and my game vs the unrated player was therefore not rated.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #18

    piphilologist

    johnyoudell wrote:

    I'll see if I can puzzle out the "FIDE rating floor" thing.

    For the first event, at least 3 games must be played with at least 1 point, and with a rating performance of 1001 or more.

    However for the future tournaments I don't think there is a floor for the rating performance for each individual event, although the rating performance for all of the games combined must be 1001 or more to get a rating.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #19

    johnyoudell

    I have found some more rules.

    http://www.arbitriscacchi.com/regolamenti/B02.pdf

    Unless changed since 2008 (and subject to confirming the authenticity of the arbitriscacchi.com document) there is a time limit as follows

    "The condition of a minimum of 9 games need not be met in one tournament: results from other events, played within rating periods of not more than two years, are pooled to obtain the initial rating."

    Not too sure about the "rating period". It will probably have to do with when the first results are submitted and the six dates in each callendar year when ratings changes (and new ratings) are required to be published.

    Not sure yet about "FIDE rating floor" but piphilologist's experience may give a clue about that. I'll have another look when I've played some moves.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #20

    johnyoudell

    Moves played. Returning to this:

    I have found a chessbase report saying that from July this year the FIDE rating floor is 1000.

    http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=8290


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