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18th June 2009, 01:21pm
#1
by DocRoy
Chi-Town United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 375

Which one is better? I have a rating with the USCF but how does one go about getting FIDE rated?

18th June 2009, 06:11pm
#2
by emschorsch
New York United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 159

You have to play in FIDE tournaments and have a performance rating of above 1800 I think, and maintain that for 10 games.

18th June 2009, 06:16pm
#3
by Keyif
Chicago United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 3042

Angelo of Touch Move is a FIDE rater but he will not touch you until you are above 1800 (I think) USCF. You can also find and join a FIDE rated tourney. I have a ICCF rating which I believe can be used for FIDE correspondence. Also see if there is an FIDE corr rating that you can start with.

You can go to the FIDE Site and look for tournaments that are FIDE rated. In fact the Open Section at the Chicago Open and the U2300 are FIDE rated. I will look for more and let you know.

22nd June 2009, 08:46am
#4
by DocRoy
Chi-Town United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 375

Thanks, please let me know what you find out. Especially about the Open.  Hopefully the Chgo Class Championships are the same way and I established a FIDE rating.  ALso thats interesting about the ICC being used as a FIDE correspondence.  Lots for me to check out.

22nd June 2009, 10:11am
#5
by CarlMI
White Post, VA United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 934

The ICCF  (http://www.iccf.com/content/index.php) is recognized by FIDE.  ICC is not ICCF, they are two different organizations.

ICCF is the International Correspondence Chess Federation. ICCF was founded in 1951 as a new appearance of the ICCA (International Correspondence Chess Association), which was founded in 1945, as successor of the IFSB (Internationaler Fernschachbund), founded in 1928.
ICCF, the present successor of the IFSB, is a federation of national member organizations. At this moment there are world-wide over 65 national member federations with altogether more than 100.000 individual member correspondence chess players.
ICCF is closely co-operating with the leading world chess organization FIDE. All ICCF titles, championships and ratings are recognised by FIDE.


In most sports you only can play regularly on an international basis when you are a national top-player. One of the charms of correspondence chess (whether you are playing the email or the postal version) is that you can play at an international level, even when you are starting to play this kind of a game for the first time.


ICCF organizes all kind of tournaments: individual and team championships, title norm tournaments and promotion tournaments (from Open Class until Master Class). Both in postal and in email versions.
However, Correspondence titles and ratings are not OTB titles and ratings and vice versa.  A CC GM, if unrated OTB, has no FIDE rating.  A OTB GM, if unrated in CC, has no ICCF rating.   Apples and Oranges.
22nd June 2009, 10:19am
#6
by NM Reb
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 7857

You can play in a fide rated event and not get a fide rating. if the event you play in is fide rated you still must play opponents that have fide ratings, if you play only opponents with no fide rating , even though the tourney is rated by fide, your games will not count towards a fide rating. also, you must win or draw some games against said fide rated opponents, if you lose all your games with fide rated opponents you also get no rating....

22nd June 2009, 10:33am
#7
by WVSFielding
Sunny Sunny Weymouth England
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 569

ECF is better. Wink

22nd June 2009, 10:51am
#8
by CarlMI
White Post, VA United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 934

I think ECF is a member of ICCF is it not?

 

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