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Fischer vs. Kasparov


  • 11 months ago · #821

    slowman2

    Chesspooljuly i agree with your statement about computers

  • 11 months ago · #822

    theoreticalboy

    chesspooljuly13 wrote:

    Don't criticize the splinter in your brother's eye til you've removed the log from your own eye (or something like that.)

    Why would anyone criticise a splinter in someone's eye?  Wouldn't it be far more germane to help them remove it?  I mean, that sort of thing can get infected, and then there are a whole host of dangers associated with that.

    And how does anyone even fit a log in their own eye?  This saying makes ZERO sense.

  • 11 months ago · #823

    Ryan390

    theoreticalboy wrote:
    chesspooljuly13 wrote:

    Don't criticize the splinter in your brother's eye til you've removed the log from your own eye (or something like that.)

    Why would anyone criticise a splinter in someone's eye?  Wouldn't it be far more germane to help them remove it?  I mean, that sort of thing can get infected, and then there are a whole host of dangers associated with that.

    And how does anyone even fit a log in their own eye?  This saying makes ZERO sense.

    And he knocks it out the park!

  • 11 months ago · #824

    HIDDENFORTRESS

    ClavierCavalier wrote:

    I read that Fischer instantly memorized games and after tournaments/matches he could recount all of his games with 100% accuracy.  If this is true, even though Kasparov did all of this research and computer use, wouldn't Fischer's talent allow him to surpass Kasparov if he had the same access to computers, since he'd have even more stored in his mind?  

    There was a BBC documentary in the 80s that stated Kasparov has a photographic memory and that he can recall every game he has ever played move by move.

    This Beethoven Mozart thing is a bit of a loose analogy, can I just suggest that Fischer is Peanut Butter and that Kasparov is Jelly? Can anyone argue that? Its very self evident.

  • 11 months ago · #825

    TheGrobe

    Morphy was bananas.

  • 11 months ago · #826

    nameno1had

    Yeah but Pillsbury took the cake...

  • 11 months ago · #827

    ilikeflags

    nameno1had wrote:

    Yeah but Pillsbury took the cake...

    worst post ever

  • 11 months ago · #828

    nameno1had

    ilikeflags wrote:
    nameno1had wrote:

    Yeah but Pillsbury took the cake...

    worst post ever

    Worst post ever would probably be when it's molded or something...

  • 11 months ago · #829

    JeffGreen333

    batgirl wrote:

    "The consensus is that Capablanca used a computer"

     

    I've always supected as much. Even his name sounds like a computer progam.

     

    OMG. Computers didn't even exist back then. lol  Capablanca played in the early 1900's.  He died before computers were even invented.  My guess is that we'll be talking about Carlsen being the greatest of all time, in a few years though.  But yeah, Kasparov over Fischer, because of the advances of theory, chess computers and because Fischer wouldn't have showed up for the match.  lol

  • 11 months ago · #830

    OldHastonian

    ClavierCavalier wrote:
    .  Fischer hasn't played chess since his death in 2008.

    Are you sure about that?

  • 11 months ago · #831

    JeffGreen333

    ilikeflags wrote:
    nameno1had wrote:

    Yeah but Pillsbury took the cake...

    worst post ever

    I thought it was pretty funny.  lol   Maybe you didn't get it.  It was a joke.  

  • 11 months ago · #832

    nameno1had

    JeffGreen333 wrote:
    ilikeflags wrote:
    nameno1had wrote:

    Yeah but Pillsbury took the cake...

    worst post ever

    I thought it was pretty funny.  lol   Maybe you didn't get it.  It was a joke.  

    What am I supposed to say each time...wow...I have out done myself again?....that would get as boring as hearing...that is the worst post ever...

  • 11 months ago · #833

    nameno1had

    Grousey wrote:
    ClavierCavalier wrote:
    .  Fischer hasn't played chess since his death in 2008.

    Are you sure about that?

    I've seen games he has played since his death...

    and Elvis and I shared the same money...

  • 11 months ago · #834

    JeffGreen333

    What's sad is how Bobby Fischer got all of us older Americans into chess and how we all looked up to him as an idol when we were kids, only to find out later that he was an insane racist.  After watching some documentary videos of Bobby, I lost all respect for the man.  He was very self-centered, had no social skills, was a loner, a racist and a conspiracy nut case.  All he could do was play chess.  I don't think he ever held a real job in his entire life.  So if they ever do get to play each other, beyond the grave, Go Kasparov !!!  

  • 11 months ago · #835

    slowman2

    America made Fischer what he became

  • 11 months ago · #837

    ponz111

    Fischer was not a person most people could tolerate. However he was a genius at chess and either he or Kasporov are the greatest or best player ever.

    Hard to compare him against Karparov as Kasparov had the data bases and chess playing computers plus others helping him and he was a genius with these helps.

    Fisher was a genius without these helps--on his own - so are you going to have Kasparov play Fischer without his helps or  are you going to have Fischer play Kasparov with these helps?

    With both having the helps Kasparov wins.  With both "on their own" Fishcher wins.

  • 11 months ago · #838

    WestofHollywood

    JeffGreen333 wrote:

    What's sad is how Bobby Fischer got all of us older Americans into chess and how we all looked up to him as an idol when we were kids, only to find out later that he was an insane racist.  After watching some documentary videos of Bobby, I lost all respect for the man.  He was very self-centered, had no social skills, was a loner, a racist and a conspiracy nut case.  All he could do was play chess.  I don't think he ever held a real job in his entire life.  So if they ever do get to play each other, beyond the grave, Go Kasparov !!!  

    Is being a world class grandmaster a real job?

  • 10 months ago · #839

    netzach

    So any extremists, traitors, racists or undesirables we find within our countries or federations should have their passports taken away & be disowned ?

    ( But let's retain acclaim for any sporting-successes achieved by them as a national-triumph. )

  • 10 months ago · #840

    TheGrobe

    WestofHollywood wrote:
    JeffGreen333 wrote:

    What's sad is how Bobby Fischer got all of us older Americans into chess and how we all looked up to him as an idol when we were kids, only to find out later that he was an insane racist.  After watching some documentary videos of Bobby, I lost all respect for the man.  He was very self-centered, had no social skills, was a loner, a racist and a conspiracy nut case.  All he could do was play chess.  I don't think he ever held a real job in his entire life.  So if they ever do get to play each other, beyond the grave, Go Kasparov !!!  

    Is being a world class grandmaster a real job?

    It's a hell of a lot of work, anyway.


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