Fischer vs. Kasparov

It's actually because the world is full of people like you...

How are you going to survive the zombie apocalypse if you don't even know how to make a bow and arrow?

Chesspool,

You didn't just say money was necessary for today's life, but that it was the most important thing. Necessity only came into play when it was suggested that not only was it not in the top 10most important things (bigpoison), but that it may well not even be a necessity (myself, among others). In fact, all that was necessary to demonstrate this was to find a single counterexample, say a lost tribe, and your entire argument unravels.

The fact that you then go on to chide me for finding such a counterexample and reframe your initial claim so as to soften it seems to indicate that you either have no ability to maintain a cohesive train of thought, or no ability to admit when you may have overstated something and in fact been wrong. I'm going to give you enough credit to lean towards the latter explanation.

Zombies are another great example of the ability to lead a fulfilled life without money.

They just want brains.

Except the vegetarian ones:

Graaaaaaains....

Not that you probably care anymore or want to hear it from me...living without money is far easier for some to succeed at, than it is for others to even attempt to do...

when the homeless shelters are full, you are either loitering or tresspassing...they are both illegal...I think it was missed where the Hippo was coming from...it's obvious that the  theorizer boy missed it...

Never said money was the most important thing. Cite the quote where I did.

I said the search for truth was the most important thing. You then listed around 20 or so (didn't bother to count) of life's necessities that were more important. I then pointed out that if one's profession were the search for truth, as many are, that would provide money to pay for everything you cited. You and/or others then made the patently absurd claim that one could live a fulfilling life without money (that was the extreme statement, not mine) and we debated the possibility of that.

Again, quote where I said money was the most important thing. I don't believe that so am curious how you arrived at that conclusion.

nutsack then chimed in, as he is wont to do, with a comment that reinforced the bigger point (I.e. the search for a truth being, in my mind, secondary to the search for the truth.)

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Just a few examples. I think we got that idea because you talk about it so much.

Do you explicitly say, "Money is the most important thing?"

No.

Do you implicitly say it is the most important thing by arguing that all things in our society and even our very survival are brought about by money?

Yes.

Great examples corrijean but nowhere in any of them do I say money is the most important thing. I'm simply saying that money is the byproduct of the most important thing and covers/pays for the 20 or so things that were cited as more important than the search for the truth. Some of the latter comments pertained to refuting the absurd notion that money was not necessary in today's world to live a fulfilling life - I'm, again, not talking about a lot of money, but some money. It's important to restate this because of the poster who claimed I was "greedy" for saying money is necessary. Din't confuse the byproduct or result of something with being greater than its source.

I commend you for re-reading all those posts, though. You're a better gal than I

*Don't* not *Din't*

Let me explain using a real-life example.

You're aware, I'm sure, of the folks looking for the Higg's Boson, which, if found, would give us a better idea of the nature of the universe (search for truth.)

Those fellows and gals doing that work are being paid money.

But is the byproduct of their work (money) more important than the work itself?

No! Each one of them could get a job in another field, let's say selling used cars. They're still making money but are no longer involved in a search for the truth.

Let's say each one of them was told they could make the same amount of money selling used cars as they do searching for the Higg's Boson (apologies if misspelled; I'm doing it from memory and too lazy to Google.)

Would any of them say, "I'm abandoning my important work so I can make the same amount of money selling used cars."

I doubt it. To them, the search for truth is more important than money - money is a byproduct of the most important thing, not the most important thing.

That's just a semantic cop out.

You stated over and over that we can't live without it and talked at great length about its paramount importance to our lives.

And your money comes through working for truth line doesn't make much sense, either. There are plenty of really crooked people who make a lot more money than any of us.

Money only took on a prominent role in this thread when a poster declared that he could live a fulfilling life without it - not that he could live a fulfilling life with relatively little money, but without it (which I took to mean without so much as a penny...convert to currency of your choice.)

Tap dancing.

You're still confusing the most important thing with a byproduct of it.

And, again, money is necessary to survive (a much lower standard of living than having a fulfilling life) but it comes about and comes into one's possession through the most important thing.

Can't refute what I said? Sleep on it; let those neurons do their thing. Maybe you'll think of something in the morning

I, though, likely will have reverted back to Proverbs 23:9. Should have stayed there; The Good Book knows best