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FM, CM and NM Titles


  • 18 months ago · Quote · #41

    SocialPanda

    petrip wrote:
    M_Cass wrote:

    Ive been playing chess for about 35 years but never competitively. Unless I am mistaken, why is it that women and men are seperate in tournaments? I get it in baseball, football, wrestling, etc. But why in chess? doesnt make much sense to me.

    Are there separate tournaments? At least here tournament are open both except few specially for women.

    In over the board tournaments there are women only tournaments and women only titles. In ICCF Correspondence Tournaments there are also Ladies only competitions.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #42

    lagsystem

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  • 3 months ago · Quote · #43

    Bzzt

    Thanks for the information.

    One question: If qualifying for a CM requires a Fide rating upwards of 2000 or 2200, as is stated here, then how come so many 1700+ players bear that title?

    Thanks.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #44

    VULPES_VULPES

    Bzzt wrote:

    Thanks for the information.

    One question: If qualifying for a CM requires a Fide rating upwards of 2000 or 2200, as is stated here, then how come so many 1700+ players bear that title?

    Thanks.

    The possibility I think of is that they got the CM title, but then had few bad tournaments and lost a ton of rating.

    If you mean 1700 on chess.com, then that's easy. The two ratings are not dependent on each other.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #45

    Bzzt

    VULPES_VULPES wrote:
    Bzzt wrote:

    Thanks for the information.

    One question: If qualifying for a CM requires a Fide rating upwards of 2000 or 2200, as is stated here, then how come so many 1700+ players bear that title?

    Thanks.

    The possibility I think of is that they got the CM title, but then had few bad tournaments and lost a ton of rating.

    If you mean 1700 on chess.com, then that's easy. The two ratings are not dependent on each other.

    Granted, but you surely wouldn't expect a FIDE CM to be rated 1700 on this site, and I have seen numerous CM's well below 2000; I've even beaten one once and I'm just a patzer.

    Wikipedia defines CM as "Similar to FM, but with a FIDE Rating of at least 2200."

    I find that rather curious. :/

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #47

    Bzzt

    Reb wrote:

    FIDE titles are meaning less and less because they give away many titles that are not actually earned . A kid say under 12 can become FM without having the 2300 fide rating by just winning a kids only event in which there arent even any FMs playing , this is one reason you will see very weak titled players . Its a joke really. 

    OK. I guess that explains it then. Could be that they're more generous in awarding the lesser titles, in order to stimulate interest and motivate players. Who knows?

    Thanks, NM Reb. :)

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #48

    umirin1991

    Women's titles are a complete joke.

    I played against a girl who was 1800 or so in a tournament, and she was making sure everyone knew that she was a WIM.

    Beating her was fun, especially when her parents were there making faces at me for winning.

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #49

    SocialPanda

    Bzzt wrote:
    Reb wrote:

    FIDE titles are meaning less and less because they give away many titles that are not actually earned . A kid say under 12 can become FM without having the 2300 fide rating by just winning a kids only event in which there arent even any FMs playing , this is one reason you will see very weak titled players . Its a joke really. 

    OK. I guess that explains it then. Could be that they're more generous in awarding the lesser titles, in order to stimulate interest and motivate players. Who knows?

    Thanks, NM Reb. :)

    Look at some examples, these are some ways to get the CM title:

    At these tournaments:

    Continental Amateur
    Cont. & Regional U10; U8
    Cont. Schools U11; U9; U7

    World U10; U8 
    World Schools U11; U9; U7

    In order to get the CM you have to get:

    1st equal, Silver & Bronze - title

    With these tournaments you can also get the FM title:

    Cont. & Regional U14; U12
    Cont. Schools U17; U15; U13

    World U12 
    World Schools U17; U15; U13

    gold gives you the FM title and silver and bronze the CM title:

    Gold – title

    Silver & Bronze – title

    The olympiads are a special case:

    CM is 

    50% in min 7 games - title

    and

    FM is

    65% in min 9 games - title

    source: https://www.fide.com/component/handbook/?id=173&view=article

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #50

    Bzzt

    Double standards indeed. Very strange, and more so since the titles granted are valid for life.

    Why not issue junior titles instead? Like JFM, or JCM.

    This way of doing it only gives credence to what NM Reb said.


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