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  • 8 months ago · Quote · #281

    madhacker

    By his reasoning, if I get a gun, go to the zoo, and shoot all the animals, that isn't my fault and doesn't count as animal cruelty, because humans have been conditioned by evolution to kill animals for food.

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #282

    dmxn2k

    madhacker wrote:

    By his reasoning, if I get a gun, go to the zoo, and shoot all the animals, that isn't my fault and doesn't count as animal cruelty, because humans have been conditioned by evolution to kill animals for food.

    Flirting with a woman on a social network is not the same as killing animals in a zoo....

    The moral, criminal, ethical, issues alone make the analogy a poor one.

    Second, a natural urge to kill animals for food (an urge which is debatable regarding humans because humans are arguably built for vegetables, socialized in an environment not to kill animals, and tend not to look at an animal while hungry and think "Oh, food!") would not justify killing more than one needs to eat and killing that which belongs to someone else....

    On the other hand, a natural urge to flirt with another (one that is debatable, but highly more reasonable given the perponderance of past interactions between human beings over these thousands of years where the only thing debatable is the definition of flirting) would justify flirting, which isn't excessive and harms no one....

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #283

    marcosite

    NakedChick wrote:

    Having just gotten clobbered for having a provocative avatar, I still want to know why Kasporov has not done anything to me. It seems to suggest that he has some self control and is wrong about saying males have none. Oh yes, and I am decidedly under 40. Not that age is remotely relevant.

    Agree with you NakedChick & followed The Other Thread to it's rather bitter end.  I don't think you'll ever know how certain members work. Take it as a compliment, maybe you scared him off!  

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #284

    madhacker

    @dmxn2k, it's hardly 'innocent flirting' that the OP is trying to justify here, it's more like persistent harassing. I accept that the analogy is flawed but I was just trying to make a point.

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #285

    Senator-Blutarsky

    It's not so much a flawed analogy as one that may require a reader to ponder over it for half a second, which is quite a stretch on a chess site.

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #286

    Elubas

    madhacker wrote:

    By his reasoning, if I get a gun, go to the zoo, and shoot all the animals, that isn't my fault and doesn't count as animal cruelty, because humans have been conditioned by evolution to kill animals for food.

    Indeed, it depends on how determinist you want to get about this :) "Don't punish me, I can't control who I am!"

    And actually I'm not sure if it's easy to resolve this issue -- how far can you go to rid yourself of responsibility. After all, if you're mentally insane for instance you are treated more leniently. My intuition tells me that somehow, at some extreme, the argument has to break down (yet it's not easy to see the "how").

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #287

    dmxn2k

    madhacker wrote:

    @dmxn2k, it's hardly 'innocent flirting' that the OP is trying to justify here, it's more like persistent harassing. I accept that the analogy is flawed but I was just trying to make a point.

    He repeatedly condemns harassment while noting WHY it would occur, not THAT it should occur. At worst, Kasparov_Jr is an inarticulate, attention-mongering, chat-box, but he's not justifying harassment....

    He is trying to make a point that everyone ignores because he can't state his position clearly, and you were making a point using an analogy that is only slightly better than his articulation....

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #288

    madhacker

    Hmm... I think you are being generous to him, when he says things like "please respect the fact that you will always be targeted as a female". I'd modify your statement to "At best, Kasparov_Jr is an inarticulate, attention-mongering, chat-box".

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #289

    Senator-Blutarsky

    Boys will be boys, teenage hormones rage all over the website currently.

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #290

    dmxn2k

    madhacker wrote:

    Hmm... I think you are being generous to him, when he says things like "please respect the fact that you will always be targeted as a female". I'd modify your statement to "At best, Kasparov_Jr is an inarticulate, attention-mongering, chat-box".

    If you take that statement out of the context of the rest of his rambling, sure.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #291

    Billion_Tactics_Boy

    I have to agree with the OP to some extent.

    I mean if a young handsome chess player started to chat the girl up she would be fine with it, but when some wierd 40+ year old starts to chat her up she get all annoyed and complains.

    My message to the girls here is that if you are going to post pictures of yourself on here, don't expect handsome young teenagers like me to be the only ones that compliment you for them, expect to recieve compliments from anyone

    That's all

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #292

    marcosite

    ...well spotted....worth a thought...

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #293

    JGambit

    Kasprov jr gets it. Welcome to reality.

    I also love how the girls pretend they hate it as if that wasn't their intention.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #294

    JGambit

    Elubas wrote:
    madhacker wrote:

    By his reasoning, if I get a gun, go to the zoo, and shoot all the animals, that isn't my fault and doesn't count as animal cruelty, because humans have been conditioned by evolution to kill animals for food.

    Indeed, it depends on how determinist you want to get about this :) "Don't punish me, I can't control who I am!"

    And actually I'm not sure if it's easy to resolve this issue -- how far can you go to rid yourself of responsibility. After all, if you're mentally insane for instance you are treated more leniently. My intuition tells me that somehow, at some extreme, the argument has to break down (yet it's not easy to see the "how").

    I have a thought on this idea.

    I don't care how insane you are, or how unwitingly you do it. If someone was to go on a killing spree for example, I do not care if they are aware of what they are doing, they should be capped.

    If you are a theif, I don't care if you can control it or not, you should be punished.

    If someone fights you, you don't say "well thats your instinct so its okay"

    Can't stand the mamby pamby well little johnny has this so its okay no matter what he does.

    Actions speak for themselves, and controlable or not, all actions have consequences

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #295

    lovellisaiah

    ahahahahahahahah so stupid

  • 3 months ago · Quote · #296

    Jion_Wansu

    Kasporov_Jr wrote:
    Jion_Wansu wrote:

    What about ladies like Ashley Tapp? Will she be the "next" Magnus Carlsen...

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    holy crap fine as hell, need to match her asap

    lol


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