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Forgotten Seniors


  • 24 months ago · Quote · #2

    Crazychessplaya

    "Senior" is a state of mind, NM Reb. Joseph Henry Blake, born in 1859, achieved his best result in at Weston-super-Mare in 1922. He finished ahead of Maroczy, G.A.Thomas, Yates and Kostic. In your place, I would compete in regular tournaments, and write a chess.com blog about the weird young people you encounter there.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #3

    Rvfvs

    It's not a disgrace chess organizations cater to kids instead of seniors.  Kids lack the know-how, the experience, and the resources to organize tournaments on their own.  Seniors don't.  In fact, there's not a group alive with greater access to all those things, plus spare time.

    Nobody's casting you aside.  It's just expected that after 40 years on the scene, you'll be able to stand on your own two feet.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #4

    Crazychessplaya

    Ouch, Rvfvs....

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #5

    Arctor

    I don't understand why you can't take part in regular, non age-segregated events. Do you doubt you have the ability/stamina to keep up with the young folk? If that's the case then how is that any different from the U-1400 player you mentioned in another thread who won what you believe was an inflated prize for playing a lesser standard of chess?

    Tournaments segregated by rating are logical, no 1200 wants to pay an entry fee only to be constantly dismantled by far better players, learning nothing. Likewise, no expert/master wants to see the quality of an event diminished by players who will roll over after 10-15 moves. Tournaments for kids are also logical as a way to promote the game to younger generations

    Reduced entry fees for seniors is something that's quite agreeable to me but I just don't see the logic of seperate sections/events, at least not on a large scale like you're suggesting should be the norm.

    Reb, the fact that we all lap up whatever advice you fell kind enough to offer on these forums should be evidence enough that you're being paid attention to Smile

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #7

    Crazychessplaya

    Diego Velázquez: Los borrachos (The Seniors)

     

     

     

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #9

    woton

    There aren't many senior players.

    These are the data that I have gleaned from the USCF's web-site:

    Total number of active players (players who have played in at least one tournament in the last 12 months)  --   45,000

    Number of active senior players -- 1300

    Number of active junior players (under 16)  --33,000

    These numbers show why the junior players get a lot of attention.

    In the tournaments that I have recently played in, there was one senior player, me.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #10

    Deranged

    Umm, I'm pretty sure we don't discriminate against seniors. We don't set age limits like "you must be under 65 to join this tournament." We allow all ages to join, including young children and old seniors, so why complain about nothing?

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #12

    Deranged

    Reb wrote:
    Deranged wrote:

    Umm, I'm pretty sure we don't discriminate against seniors. We don't set age limits like "you must be under 65 to join this tournament." We allow all ages to join, including young children and old seniors, so why complain about nothing?


    You obviously just don't "get it" . There are many events for kids only, scholastic events, under certain ages like 18, 16, 14, 12 .etc..... there are MANY events for kids which DO exclude not only seniors but all adults period. So, whats wrong with having one seniors event a year ? 


    Because children are still developing and their brains are not fully functional yet, so how do you expect them to compete with a fully developed adult brain? Seniors are adults. If anything, seniors pride themselves on being so much wiser than the younger generation, so using their special wisdom, they should be able to beat any 20 year old chess players.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #15

    jesterville

    Reb, you are correct..."forgotten seniors" hits it on the head...and the reason why they are forgotten, is because the market does not "see" them...our current Model only sees those sectors with the most money, or at least access to it...Kids, The Young, Teens, and Women...not enough "spending power" in the senior sector plus many "need" issues (not good)...

    ...and this is one of the main problem of "the Market Model"...it does not cater to the needs of all sectors...only those with the most money..

    ...I guess we will all have to face such issues as you are currently experiencing, when we reach to a similar age...hopefully by then, a more egalatarian approach will be in place...

    ...but I doubt it...

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #16

    woton

    Seniors are "forgotten" because adults have little interest in playing chess, and the interest decreases with age (look at the data in post #11).  It would be nice if there were a large number of tournaments for seniors, but because of the low number of active senior players, I do not expect tournament organizers to cater to my generation.

    There are plenty of seniors in the US who have the money to play chess.  They prefer to spend their money on other things (I see a lot of them on the golf course).

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #18

    Vyomo

    In India, there are open fide rating tournaments where you can participate, whatever your age.

    I once met a 75-year old man and drew with him.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #19

    Vyomo

    As a side note, why don't you take part in the Mumbai Mayor's Cup in September and Write an article on it for chess.com?

    Even I am taking part. You could meet IMs and GMs

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #20

    electricpawn

    People want various chess events to happen, but nobody wants to organize or direct them. Have you looked into organizing such an event?


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