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1st September 2008, 07:04am
#41
by dmeng
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 308

CzarWithinMoons wrote:

rich wrote:

No one can get to a rating of 10000.


    Not with that attitude.


For once, I side with rich (and kingchild). The rating systems used by the USCF and FIDE have a theoretical maximum of 3000 (though some computers have had provisional ratings of 3300). A 10000 rated player would have to beat the best computers in the world (we're talking server-size here) around 99.9999999999% of the time or so, which is not going to happen in a million years.

In other words, CzarWithinMoons is a really bad liar.

1st September 2008, 07:37am
#42
by dmeng
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 308

CzarWithinMoons wrote:

dmeng wrote:

CzarWithinMoons wrote:

rich wrote:

No one can get to a rating of 10000.


    Not with that attitude.


For once, I side with rich (and kingchild). The rating systems used by the USCF and FIDE have a theoretical maximum of 3000 (though some computers have had provisional ratings of 3300). A 10000 rated player would have to beat the best computers in the world (we're talking server-size here) around 99.9999999999% of the time or so, which is not going to happen in a million years.

In other words, CzarWithinMoons is a really bad liar.


 It could happen within a million years if the player in question is rated 10000.


My point was that there is no way anyone is going to get to 10000 (Remember, when Arpad Elo created his rating system, the maximum was 3000)

1st September 2008, 07:54am
#43
by alexy777
Miami, Florida United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 184

I once had 250+ at once, but that was too much. Now I'm playng 30-40 because < 30 is just not enough.

1st September 2008, 08:11am
#44
by Diana_L
Spain
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 13288

CzarWithinMoons wrote:

kingchild wrote:

Bullshit


    Thanks, I was just about to by chess.com accounts for my young children, but forget it now.

It's a nonsense you are more worried for my comment "bullshit" than someone telling you are a bad liar,really curious,lol


1st September 2008, 08:23am
#45
by joly
melb Australia
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 76

Although, if I understand this discussion correctly, no person has ever achieved a rating of 10,000, CzarWithinMoons was able to find 1,000,000 people with 10,000 rating willing and able to play him/her over the board simultaneously.

Despite the logistics of setting up 1,000,000 chess boards and moving between each under strict time controls, CzarWithinMoons, a most superior athlete, was able to best all contenders.

I, for one, believe this story - after all, what is the incentive to lie.

However, my question is to the technical naysayers - why is it not possible to have a rating over 3,000? if the ratings are a prediction of the result, why would they not be uncapped (or does 3,000 mean a 100% chance of beating absolutely anyone)?

1st September 2008, 10:05am
#46
by dmeng
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 308

joly wrote:

Although, if I understand this discussion correctly, no person has ever achieved a rating of 10,000, CzarWithinMoons was able to find 1,000,000 million people with 10,000 rating willing and able to play him/her over the board simultaneously.

Despite the logistics of setting up 1,000,000 chess boards and moving between each under strict time controls, CzarWithinMoons, a most superior athlete, was able to best all contenders.

I, for one, believe this story - after all, what is the incentive to lie.

However, my question is to the technical naysayers - why is it not possible to have a rating over 3,000? if the ratings are a prediction of the result, why would they not be uncapped (or does 3,000 mean a 100% chance of beating absolutely anyone)?


There is an incentive to lie. It's called a boast.

As it is, I highly doubt FIDE and its subordinate organizations can even cough up a million people with ratings over 2000, let alone 10000. As it is, even the fastest computers today can't break 3000 ELO for any extended period of time.

On top of that, if you spent 1 second per move, that's 1 million seconds to make a move in each game. That's almost 12 days. If each game lasts on average 40 moves, we're talking over 30 months of playing 24/7, and that's still assuming that each side takes 1 second per move. If CzarWithinMoons were to spend a slightly more realistic amount of 16 hours a day playing, that's still about 4 years to play 1 million people while taking just 1 second per move.

1st September 2008, 01:24pm
#47
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 22814

CzarWithinMoons wrote:

rich wrote:

No one can get to a rating of 10000.


    Not with that attitude.


 Goddamn you it's basically impossible 2800 tops.

1st September 2008, 01:26pm
#48
by FVC123
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 3047

LOl i do not know how high a person can go

1st September 2008, 01:27pm
#49
by FVC123
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 3047

I know this much if you try to protect your kids from every bad thing they will never grow up.

1st September 2008, 01:27pm
#50
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 22814

Haha, all I know is 10000 isn't possible.

1st September 2008, 01:29pm
#51
by FVC123
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 3047

Thats true

1st September 2008, 01:30pm
#52
by FVC123
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 3047

Well i learned something new

1st September 2008, 02:42pm
#53
by Diana_L
Spain
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 13288

We all did..

1st September 2008, 02:43pm
#54
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 22814

I didn't.

1st September 2008, 02:44pm
#55
by Diana_L
Spain
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 13288

Of course,Einstein!

1st September 2008, 02:46pm
#56
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 22814

Lol, that's the name my mates call me.

1st September 2008, 02:47pm
#57
by FVC123
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 3047

lol

1st September 2008, 02:56pm
#58
by Diana_L
Spain
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 13288

Really? I though they would call you SPOILED BRAT!

1st September 2008, 02:57pm
#59
by FVC123
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 3047

lol thats funny

1st September 2008, 02:57pm
#60
by carlitos_24850
rio grande, Tierra del fuego Argentina
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 6

I am teaching atack grob, everybodi can ofer the tree  and games of each one


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