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I will add...
I do think that chessplayers used to have a greater sense of humility "back in the day". That's because when they sat across from someone, in the flesh, and got their butt kicked, that would bring the ego "down to earth".
Nowadays, everyone has a computer, smartphone, tablet, etc. with various software and some of the worst patzers can smugly feel like a whizzbang chessplayer.
Hey, I am just reporting the news.
Chess fans have a sense of entitlement in this day and age. Despite their so-called intelligence, many believe that they are better chess players than grandmasters because they can run a position on a strong program and have it evaulate positions and provide accurate continuations in seconds. Remove the program and use your own brain like the players are doing in tournament halls and match venues. Simulate the actual playing environment. Players don't have the luxury of turning on Houdini and relaxing in bed and criticizing people through a computer monitor when they miss a program's first choice move. Also human factors come into consideration: they could be tense, nervous, exhausted, etc. Then when the internet spectators place themselves in these grandmaster shoes, they can realize how good these players are.
Lets not talk about GMs, chess programs have raised the playing of ALL players in the past 10 years. I know it is a fact that a 1700 player today is like 1900 or 2000 player just 10 years ago. The average standard has gone up a lot. Try playing 1300 players on Yahoo Chess now......very different from your average 1300 player here.
I second this. I only dip into OTB chess on occasions, but I have been doing it on and off since the 70's I have always been rated in the 1600's. But my playing strength is definetly stronger now. I can look back at games I played in say 1979, as a 1600, and chuckle at the newbie mistakes. I would estimate I was playing at what would be considered 1400 today.
I don't think a chess program/ engine running on a smart phone can beat Carlsen and other 2700+ players yet. On a cheapest notebook, yes. But another few years, the smart phone can challenge the world champion anytime.
iphone 5s with 64bitprocessor engine can beat i believe
64 bit micro on a smart phone? Must be a pocket chess monster.
engiens have change people way of thinkig which has lost my respect to the game there was a post invent a gambit that gives your side adventege and a person posted a stupid gambit just so he can laugh how people think about chess now days
Overall, I'd say that chess is both better and worse than "in the old days".
There was more of a profound, mystique quality about chess back then. As a teenager, I had a job after school. Then, late at night, I'd read a library chess book with a flashlight and mini chess set on the upper bunk bed that I shared with my kid brother below.
Today? Well, we all know that what I said is out the window. I would no longer need the library, the book, the flashlight nor the mini chess set.
If I was in that situation today, I'd be practicing my tactics here on the internet with my backlit-screened Nexus and playing people all over the world.
I think I'd go with things the way they are. I happen to be an old guy who is not stuck in the past. I've always loved innovation and new technology. And, here we are!
The OP asked if respect for other people has changed.
You betcha. In the old days, if you disrespected someone...you could end up holding an icebag on your eye socket afterwards.
you are absolutely right.leko was telling the same thing.
What is this belief based on?
Magnus Carlsen plays better than Houdini and Rybka when he go serious.I dont think their move analysis can be applied to Carlsen, it should be the other way around. Carlsen will tell us if Houdini made a good move.
no man I dont think so.Even carlsen makes mistakes.engines do not.
I think computers ruined the perception of the game and of what it takes to be a GM...I also think that and the internet raised the level of amateurs, club players and everyone else.I don't like the preparation players have now because of computers. It is like they are acting out somebody elses role. Yeah it did happen back then, but at least people played some moves that "could be ok", now they for sure know that they are ok or not...
I agree it has probably made people more stronger....but again it has destroyed romatic chess
More than 50 years of chessplay.
Why do you ask?
I just find it annoying that if you're beating someone online, they can simply accuse you of using an engine and in their own mind they're still the greatest player in the world.
Not saying people don't cheat, just saying it partially ruins the satisfaction of winning if you win without any computer analysis.
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