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  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    Dargone

    Has anyone else purchased it and played against it at reduced levels? The main reason I bought the program was because I'd really like to find a good sparring partner for longer time controls (which can be harder to find on the internet, i.e. 90 minutes).

    I've played a couple of games against it and am impressed with it's play. It seems more "human" than most other programs I've played. I didn't really notice any dumb computer moves that other programs make when playing at reduced levels. It really felt like I was playing another person down at the local chess club. Now I just need to find a level that's appropriate for me.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    RHoudini

    Thank you, I've made a note of your comments on the Houdini Facebook page.

    I'm interested in any feed-back about the Strength feature, I'd love to make some calibration between the Strength level and Elo rating.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    Dargone

    I'm happy to offer the feedback! I have a question, since you're reading this thread, is there a way to 'force' Houdini to play a certain opening? In other words, if I want to practice my French, QGD, etc. I'm using Arena 3.0, if that helps.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    jtt96

    Is there a dedicated gui for Houdini 2.0? Or should I just use Arena or Aquarium?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    WantedDead

    how to download houdini 2.0 ????

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    PrawnEatsPrawn

    WantedDead wrote:

    how to download houdini 2.0 ????


    http://www.cruxis.com/chess/houdini.htm

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    WantedDead

    i can`t download could send me if u can ofc

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #8

    Fury

    A bit disappointed that Houdini 2.0 standard is weaker than the 1.5a version. It's only a bit stronger with the pro version!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #9

    RHoudini

    Actually Houdini 2 is about 25 Elo stronger than Houdini 1.5, but not every rating list will show it that way.

    Rating lists have a rather large uncertainty, both random and systematic, easily of the order of 20 to 40 Elo. That means that if an engine is about 25 Elo stronger than its predecessor, inevitably some rating lists will not see any progress, whereas others will see a progress of 40 points or more.

    Below an overview of some of the rating list results for Houdini 2 compared to Houdini 1.5, this will give you a real idea of the large variations:

    - IPON Rating List: +13 Elo ( http://www.inwoba.de )
    - Clemens Keck The Base: +18 Elo ( http://www.clemens-keck.de/base.htm
    - Chess2u Top 10 Rating List: +64 Elo ( http://t10rl.blogspot.com/p/full-list.html )
    - Yurist’s 40+3 rating list: +43 Elo ( http://i059.radikal.ru/1109/be/53c50932d293.png )
    - Houdini 2 v Houdini 1.5 match at various TC: +30 Elo ( http://www.chess2u.com/t4006-houdini-20-houdini-15a )
    - Tom Casanova’s testing: +25-30 Elo ( http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40275 )
    - Azaad’s Top 20 sp engines: +15 Elo ( http://immortalchess.net/forum/showthread.php?p=164404 )

    The results above demonstrate very clearly how much a single rating list can be off-target.

    You can also get an idea of the rather large error margins of rating lists by comparing 32-bit Houdini to 64-bit Houdini. Houdini 32-bit is about 30% slower than Houdini 64-bit, but otherwise identical. This raw speed difference corresponds to exactly 25 Elo.
    Yet, when you compare Houdini 32-bit v 64-bit on some rating lists, you will sometimes find differences of more than 50 Elo points!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    1RedKnight99

    AdamsMichael wrote:

    The human rating of Houdini would be about 2600

    No, I think it would be 2950. 2600 means Carlsen could get over 50% wins against it.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    MrEdCollins

    jtt96 wrote:

    Is there a dedicated gui for Houdini 2.0? Or should I just use Arena or Aquarium?

    I see this question hasn't been answered yet. No, there is no dedicated GUI for Houdini.  You can use any GUI you want.  WinBoard, Scid vs PC, Tarrasch, Fritz, Shredder, etc.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    jtt96

    MrEdCollins wrote:
    jtt96 wrote:

    Is there a dedicated gui for Houdini 2.0? Or should I just use Arena or Aquarium?

    I see this question hasn't been answered yet. No, there is no dedicated GUI for Houdini.  You can use any GUI you want.  WinBoard, Scid vs PC, Tarrasch, Fritz, Shredder, etc.

    I completley forgot I asked that question, lol. but thanks for answering anyway. :)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    MrEdCollins

    Dargone wrote:

    I'm happy to offer the feedback! I have a question, since you're reading this thread, is there a way to 'force' Houdini to play a certain opening? In other words, if I want to practice my French, QGD, etc. I'm using Arena 3.0, if that helps.

    Dargone,

    I'm answering now, 11 months after you asked this, even though you might not even be around any more, only because others may wish to do the same thing.

    Yes, you can probably be do this in Arena... I'd be surprised if you couldn't.  However, I don't know the exact steps in Arena, since I don'use that interface any more.  (I don't like it.)

    Here's how you would do it in Scid vs. PC.  The steps might be similar in Arena or in other interfaces:

    Assume you want to play the Black side of the Advance French.

    1)  First, click the flip board icon to place Black at the bottom, assuming it isn't already.

    2)  Select PLAY and then COMPUTER - UCI ENGINE

    3)  Select Houdini as the engine to play.  Select the amount of time you want to give each player, the increment, if any, or x number of seconds per move, or whatever time control you wish. Select the specific opening you wish from the list.  Attached is a screenshot of this Configure UCI game window.  (Right-click and then VIEW IMAGE to see the graphic in its original size.)

    4)  Now click Play!



    That's it.  Your Houdini "player photo" will appear at the bottom of the chessboard, alongside yours.  (Assuming you have this option turned on, and you've previously set up such a photo for your engines and yourself).  Houdini will then play the Advance French from the White side.


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