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I know I probably sound like a complete noob but, I know how to achieve all the other status's but I've never read or seen how to achieve NM status...
If I am correct, NM title can be achieved by attaining a 2200+ USCF rating.
I thought that was CM? Or am I thinking of Elo?
CM is 2200+ FIDE, whereas NM is 2200+ USCF.
Are you saying NM is a USCF-only title? I always thought they were all FIDE titles?
National master depends on the National Federation.
the Russian National master equivilant was really really tough probably close to GM strength.
in the USCF you just need to make 2200.
There is no national master for FIDE since its an INTERNATIONAL rating.
we always say GM but the real title is IGM or International Grandmaster.
so according to what rating system it is, you need to achieve a different rating? so chess.com uses FIDE rating system? and is GM status in the uscf rating system? if not what is the highest you can achieve in uscf?
It would be IGM because at that level you are playing Internationally anyway. I think NM is it officially its just even the USCF calls them GM's at that level. the only time the US agrees with an international agency.
can you get a title on chess.com if you get a USCF CC title?
yes. you have to give them your 8 digit USCF or FIDE number. They look you up and add the Red NM, IM, GM, FM, etc before the name. There are people who try and put the title in their screen name, but if it isnt red, it isnt real
OK, this is getting confusing.
I thought NM was the next one up from CM and the same no matter where you are. Are you saying not all NMs are equal? Do all nations have a NM title?
There are the FIDE titles (CM/2200, FM/2300, etc.) and then there are the national titles, which are up to the nation in question and are totally separate from the FIDE titles. So, it's true that they aren't all "equal" since it depends on the requirements of the individual federation.
In the USCF they also have their own CM title which requires only a 2000 rating, is that what's confusing you?
Yes. I thought all titles and requirements were fixed and didn't depend on where you are. Does anyone know if the UK has a national title?
to get the NM title in the US, you need a peak rating of 2200.
CM FIDE titles are somewhat bogus - 2 weeks ago, a player from the US (9 years old) got a CM FIDE title for winning his section in the North American Youth tournament in Mexico City (people stayed away in droves) - even though there was only one player in the section rated as high as 1700 FIDE in the tournament. The new CM's USCF rating - 1384.
Though to be clear an american NM title attained by exceeding 2200 is retained for life (even if that person's rating was subsequently to fall to 1384 also...)
Also pertinent to this discussion :
What does CM stand for? Chess Master?
Does anyone know if the UK has a national title?
Yes, a grade of 200 on two rating lists a year apart gets the ECF NM title. http://www.englishchess.org.uk/?page_id=87
In the US, here are the recognized titles:
Senior Master (SM) -> peak rating of USCF 2400+. Very few of these, as most if not all people in this group have a FIDE title alreadyLife Master (LM) -> NM + 300 rated games as a NMNational Master (NM) -> peak rating of USCF 2200Candidate Master (CM) -> 5 norms achieved playing at at least a "2000" levelExpert -> unofficial title, peak rating of USCF 20001st Category - 5 norms achieved playing at at least a "1800" level2nd Category - 5 norms achieved playing at at least a "1600" level3rd Category - 5 norms achieved playing at at least a "1400" level4th Category - 5 norms achieved playing at at least a "1200" level
FIDE - (I'm less clear on how these are achieved)
GM - usually FIDE 2500+, 3 normsIM - usually FIDE 2400+, 3 normsFM - usually FIDE 2300+, but titles can be awarded for other criteria, such as winning a major tournamentCM - usually FIDE 2200+, but titles can be awarded for other criteria, such as winning a major tournament
to expound upon the FIDE list for IM the norms must be at tournoments with an IM who is from a country other than the guy trying to get the norm. same with GM. also for GM the other way to get it is to become world champion if one doesn't have a title already or doesn't already have the GM title.
A bit more clarification YOu can gain FM titles for winning fide zonals and CM for winning a FIDE championship like Canadian girls champion etc. They are sort of honorary since noone really considers anything below IM as a major title since they dont help other gaining norms.
GM is instantly awarded for becoming world champion (Men , women, Senior , junior)
IM Not sure about
to gain a norm you need a +2450 for IM an +2600 performance rating AND have played players that are from other federations hence the international part. they have some tweaks such as dropping low rated players etc, there are round limiations too like you need to have 9 rounds etc. In addition you need to have an official rating calculation at ANYTIME of 2400 for IM and 2500 for GM , even if its halfway through an event.
you Do not have to hold any intermediate title to gain a title. you can become GM even if you never were and FM (although by definition you get FM at 2300 so it sorta does happen) A few players in history have skipped the IM title entirely on their way to the GM title. A few names I can remember, Tal, Kramnik,Fischer, Christiansen
I think IM is awarded to runners-up of junior world championships. Not sure though.
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