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How long before a draw is declared?


  • 6 months ago · Quote · #1

    RCTurner

    I have a game currently which is King and Rook versus King and Bishop. My understanding is that this is a book draw but my opponent has asked to continue, which I respect and is perfectly fine. However, at what point does it become a draw, could we continue for ever?

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #2

    mattjchessum

    after 50 moves by each player where a piece is not taken or a pawn is not moved, if i remember correctly.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #3

    Jyrade

    50 moves by both players with no pieces being taken and no pawns advancing.

    OR

    3 moves which have the exact same positions, does not have to be consecutive.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #4

    RCTurner

    Do I have to claim it, or does it happen automatically?

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #5

    mattjchessum

    it has to be claimed.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #6

    AllogenicMan

    RCTurner wrote:

    I have a game currently which is King and Rook versus King and Bishop. My understanding is that this is a book draw but my opponent has asked to continue, which I respect and is perfectly fine. However, at what point does it become a draw, could we continue for ever?


    Well, not necessarily so[!] - assuming that Black has the bishop, and as long as Black's king is not confined to a corner square of the same colour as the bishop, nor subject to a back-rank mating threat - this is not what you'd apparently call a 'pure book'-type draw, but in layman's terms, a 'theoretical'-type draw. 

    More often than not however, this type of scenario (either with bishop or knight vs rook) often leads to some type of draw, either through 'repetition of position' [or 'threefold repetition' rule/law], or via the '50-move' rule/law, but more often through 'agreement' - and rarely [though remotely possible] through 'stalemate'.

    Theoretically, without any outside [USCF/FIDE/in-house, etc.] intervention of specific [draw claim] rulings, in most [specific] instances of bishop/knight vs rook endings, a chess game of this example could in fact last forever, forgiving player deaths, time itself, and I suppose the laws of the universe as well.

    And that's the way I see it! ...


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