i like swearing i swear

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5th June 2008, 02:00pm
#121
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1750
catholicbatman wrote: erik wrote:

there is an old saying that your right to throw a punch ends at the tip of my nose.

a person's right to express themself does not trump other people's rights not to be offended. obviously a line that must be drawn at some point, and we have drawn ours. i understand that swearing is sometimes used for some people's kind of humor, but that is best kept in groups where that is understood to be accepted, not in the general public.

i'm sure there are places to play chess with more tolerance for abuse or swearing, but not chess.com :) 


 Agreed Erik :), and I thank you for your stance on this. I, for one, am offended by swearing, and I don't swear myself, although on a unfortunate occasion words may slip. But it definitely shows respect for another person by not swearing, and I personally find swearing to be completely pointless.


It is a fair point, but the vernacular of one man is the swear word of another, where do you draw the line?


5th June 2008, 02:21pm
#122
by Marshal_Dillon
New Jersey United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 447
Evil_Homer wrote: catholicbatman wrote: erik wrote:

there is an old saying that your right to throw a punch ends at the tip of my nose.

a person's right to express themself does not trump other people's rights not to be offended. obviously a line that must be drawn at some point, and we have drawn ours. i understand that swearing is sometimes used for some people's kind of humor, but that is best kept in groups where that is understood to be accepted, not in the general public.

i'm sure there are places to play chess with more tolerance for abuse or swearing, but not chess.com :) 


 Agreed Erik :), and I thank you for your stance on this. I, for one, am offended by swearing, and I don't swear myself, although on a unfortunate occasion words may slip. But it definitely shows respect for another person by not swearing, and I personally find swearing to be completely pointless.


It is a fair point, but the vernacular of one man is the swear word of another, where do you draw the line?


 There are certain words that have been well known throughout history as being offensive or vulgar. I don't think that should need to be gone into here. There is no reason why anybody NEEDS to use these words as part of their every day speech. If they can't refrain from the use of these words then they can go somewhere else where they are free to use them but the staff here shouldn't be expected to bend the rules to accommodate foul mouthed people who can't keep their vulgar or lewd comments to themselves.


5th June 2008, 02:26pm
#123
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1750
Marshal_Dillon wrote: Evil_Homer wrote: catholicbatman wrote: erik wrote:

there is an old saying that your right to throw a punch ends at the tip of my nose.

a person's right to express themself does not trump other people's rights not to be offended. obviously a line that must be drawn at some point, and we have drawn ours. i understand that swearing is sometimes used for some people's kind of humor, but that is best kept in groups where that is understood to be accepted, not in the general public.

i'm sure there are places to play chess with more tolerance for abuse or swearing, but not chess.com :) 


 Agreed Erik :), and I thank you for your stance on this. I, for one, am offended by swearing, and I don't swear myself, although on a unfortunate occasion words may slip. But it definitely shows respect for another person by not swearing, and I personally find swearing to be completely pointless.


It is a fair point, but the vernacular of one man is the swear word of another, where do you draw the line?


 There are certain words that have been well known throughout history as being offensive or vulgar. I don't think that should need to be gone into here. There is no reason why anybody NEEDS to use these words as part of their every day speech. If they can't refrain from the use of these words then they can go somewhere else where they are free to use them but the staff here shouldn't be expected to bend the rules to accommodate foul mouthed people who can't keep their vulgar or lewd comments to themselves.


And nobody said they should, my intolerant friend! Perhaps what you find perfectly normal is offensive to me and vice versa, but we all need to find where the limits lie.

In fact, I promise you, I could be far more offensive to you in a non swearing post than I could be in a swearing post! Think about it!!!


5th June 2008, 04:13pm
#124
by mytself
youngstown,ohio United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1795

    I'm just an old farm boy. When I was younger I noticed the different behaviors of our animals. We had outside pigs we raised for meat that loved to roll around in the sty. Playing in the mud,rootin around in the mud, and even ate in the mud. To them the sty was natural and when you hosed them off for the vet to take a look, they would go right back to their mud, happy as a pig in the ---.

    We had others we raised for show. They liked the barn, ate in the barn,and played in the barn. They only time they visited the sty was to take a dump. When they got hosed off, they actually liked to be washed and stayed clean. The children even gave their piglets the run of the house. When a show pig displayed the characteristics of a meat pig. He was relegated to the sty. When a meat pig wanted to bring his mud into the barn, he was chased out.

    Eric has decided what kind of pigs he wants in his barn. If you are happier in the sty then so be it.

 

 


5th June 2008, 04:20pm
#125
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1750
mytself wrote:

    I'm just an old farm boy. When I was younger I noticed the different behaviors of our animals. We had outside pigs we raised for meat that loved to roll around in the sty. Playing in the mud,rootin around in the mud, and even ate in the mud. To them the sty was natural and when you hosed them off for the vet to take a look, they would go right back to their mud, happy as a pig in the ---.

    We had others we raised for show. They liked the barn, ate in the barn,and played in the barn. They only time they visited the sty was to take a dump. When they got hosed off, they actually liked to be washed and stayed clean. The children even gave their piglets the run of the house. When a show pig displayed the characteristics of a meat pig. He was relegated to the sty. When a meat pig wanted to bring his mud into the barn, he was chased out.

    Eric has decided what kind of pigs he wants in his barn. If you are happier in the sty then so be it.

 

 


Wow, we have been elevated to the level of barn yard animals, George Orwell would be proud.


5th June 2008, 04:23pm
#126
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 4074
mytself wrote:

    I'm just an old farm boy. When I was younger I noticed the different behaviors of our animals. We had outside pigs we raised for meat that loved to roll around in the sty. Playing in the mud,rootin around in the mud, and even ate in the mud. To them the sty was natural and when you hosed them off for the vet to take a look, they would go right back to their mud, happy as a pig in the ---.

    We had others we raised for show. They liked the barn, ate in the barn,and played in the barn. They only time they visited the sty was to take a dump. When they got hosed off, they actually liked to be washed and stayed clean. The children even gave their piglets the run of the house. When a show pig displayed the characteristics of a meat pig. He was relegated to the sty. When a meat pig wanted to bring his mud into the barn, he was chased out.

    Eric has decided what kind of pigs he wants in his barn. If you are happier in the sty then so be it.

 

 


Pigs and other farm animals will roll around in mud to help keep the insects off them and to cool off when its hot weather. Its not just cause they like to get dirty I dont believe. Smile


5th June 2008, 05:55pm
#127
by mytself
youngstown,ohio United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1795

Well Reb, that depended on the pig. We provided those children's swimming pools for the animals to cool off in, if they chose. We also had a two acre pond with a fenced in area, that some chose to play in. Where many of the cows went to cool their udders.

 The insects were controlled by encouraging Starlings, Blue birds, and bats to roost on the property. We also employed pheromone deception and carbon dioxide emitters to trap the biters.

The animals chose which behavior they wanted to adopt. We also had six dogs that worked the farm, and of the six, one chose to play in the sty. The others didn't. Some of the ponies would roll in the mud, but as they grew older, they chose the dust from the haying. We had many animals that chose certain areas that they preferred. When given a choice, most chose to be where they felt the most comfortable. Some of our pigs felt more comfortable in the barn, while others preferred the sty. Some of the horses would laze under the apple trees, others preferred to run the lower forty. When given access to the fallen apples, the barn pigs didn't mind sharing. The sty pigs were more aggressive, being as greedy as a pig. So they got limited access if any. Their behavior determined where they were permitted to be. If they disrupted the other animals they were shipped out.

I never tried to psycho-analyze them. Just accepted the way they wanted to act and then decided if they stayed or were sold, based on their behavior.We only kept six pigs through the winter. Those with acceptable behavior stayed. Those with unacceptable behavior found their way to auction. I used the pigs as an example because of the misconception that all pigs prefer the mud.

As master of the barn, I had that right to choose. The behavior of the animals determined who stayed and who left. Eric is the master of Chess.com and as such determines ...............He doesn't need to pscho-analyze the offenders, just observe their behavior and determine if they stay or go.


5th June 2008, 06:01pm
#128
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1750
mytself wrote:

Well Reb, that depended on the pig. We provided those children's swimming pools for the animals to cool off in, if they chose. We also had a two acre pond with a fenced in area, that some chose to play in. Where many of the cows went to cool their udders.

 The insects were controlled by encouraging Starlings, Blue birds, and bats to roost on the property. We also employed pheromone deception and carbon dioxide emitters to trap the biters.

The animals chose which behavior they wanted to adopt. We also had six dogs that worked the farm, and of the six, one chose to play in the sty. The others didn't. Some of the ponies would roll in the mud, but as they grew older, they chose the dust from the haying. We had many animals that chose certain areas that they preferred. When given a choice, most chose to be where they felt the most comfortable. Some of our pigs felt more comfortable in the barn, while others preferred the sty. Some of the horses would laze under the apple trees, others preferred to run the lower forty. When given access to the fallen apples, the barn pigs didn't mind sharing. The sty pigs were more aggressive, being as greedy as a pig. So they got limited access if any. Their behavior determined where they were permitted to be. If they disrupted the other animals they were shipped out.

I never tried to psycho-analyze them. Just accepted the way they wanted to act and then decided if they stayed or were sold, based on their behavior.We only kept six pigs through the winter. Those with acceptable behavior stayed. Those with unacceptable behavior found their way to auction. I used the pigs as an example because of the misconception that all pigs prefer the mud.

As master of the barn, I had that right to choose. The behavior of the animals determined who stayed and who left. Eric is the master of Chess.com and as such determines ...............He doesn't need to pscho-analyze the offenders, just observe their behavior and determine if they stay or go.


And so said Stalin.


5th June 2008, 06:16pm
#129
by Rael
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 5084

All this talk of pigs rolling in the mire...

Do I have to post my old hogwash pics again?

That'll take care of all the swearing. 


5th June 2008, 07:17pm
#130
by mytself
youngstown,ohio United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1795

Well evil, anarchy is it's own poison. A few selfish pigs allowed to run free destroys the whole farm. Or maybe I shouldn't have let them develope their own personalities. You know force the pig to act the way I perceive a pig should act. If the pig wants to act a certain way, then that's the way I let him. If he breaks into the henhouse and kills all the baby chicks. I don't feel I should have to consider if he was chased by the rooster when a piglet. Or that maybe he didn't like getting up at the crack of dawn. So struck back at his antagonizer.

Or maybe his parents related to him the centuries of oppression that the pig culture has had to endure. Justifying the murder of innocent chicks, who had no knowledge of the pigs plight. But he had to make a statement. Yea that's the kind of pig I should break bread with.

What about the pigs who choose to be a part of the farm, are they sell-outs. Misanthropic iconoclasts of the pig culture?

Here's another thing you won't like. People who wouldn't spay or neuter their dogs and cats would drop off the pups and kittens in front of the farm.taking them to the animal shelter started out as free. After a few years the cost rose to $75 U.S. per pup. With 20-30 puppies dropped off a year. Guess how much a box of 9mm.'s cost?ifyou didn't take care of the problem you had packs of wild dogs terrorizing children going to and from school. So who do you perceive as the villian? The persons creating the problem or the ones who have to clean it up? See in my part of the country there is no dog warden. All the farmers got together for a little hunt.


5th June 2008, 09:46pm
#131
by Rael
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 5084

psst mystelf I was just checking but were you trying to bring super lulz to this thread with your extended farming metaphor?

I'm not sure it worked.

A+ for effort though?  I guess. No, wait, it was a sub par. All grit and grime, no fun, no win. Just a boring, extended metaphor.

Maybe +1 one internet for "Misanthropic iconoclasts"? Ah hell, my heart's not into it. Nevermind.

Sorry dude... 2/10. 


5th June 2008, 10:42pm
#132
by timmaylivinalie
the couch Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 519
mocufushtipico!
6th June 2008, 03:03am
#133
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1750

Wow, the 19th century still exists.

You should go and live with those guys in Papua New Guinea, that way you could eat human flesh too.


6th June 2008, 04:57am
#134
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 4074
The same animal rights whackos that want to hang someone for "getting rid" of an unwanted kitten or puppy have no problem with the slaughter of human babies in the name of "choice", pretty sick when you think about it. Makes one wonder where the world is headed eh ? As for dropping such critters off at "animal shelters" what do you think eventually comes of them if noone "adopts them" ? How long are they given to live in such shelters these days ?
6th June 2008, 05:43am
#135
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1750
Now, now ladies.
6th June 2008, 06:04am
#136
by LOB
My Cardboard Box Ireland
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1801

I find it amazing how topics can change so drastically, it began with swearing and ended in pigs... being washed..

 Fun Fun Tongue out 


6th June 2008, 06:10am
#137
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 4074
silentfilmstar13 wrote: Reb wrote: The same animal rights whackos that want to hang someone for "getting rid" of an unwanted kitten or puppy have no problem with the slaughter of human babies in the name of "choice", pretty sick when you think about it. Makes one wonder where the world is headed eh ? As for dropping such critters off at "animal shelters" what do you think eventually comes of them if noone "adopts them" ? How long are they given to live in such shelters these days ?

 I know this may be a bold move, but here goes nothing:

 

Hogwash!  (?)

 

The key word you used was 'if,' as in 'if noone adopts them.'  I'm still a meat eater, I can't stand PETA, and I don't throw paint on fur coats.  Simple things like giving an animal a shot(pun intended) at getting adopted rather than immediately killing it or trophy hunting disturb the hell out of me.  With trophy hunting, one literally has to go out of his way to kill animals.

 

'Animal rights whackos'... I like that.  Another sweeping generalization from the master. There happen to be many animal rights whackos who are opposed to abortion, but that wouldn't suit your purposes, would it?  


While this may be true it has definitely NOT been my experience. First let me clarify what I mean by "whackos" when it comes to "animal rights" . For me they are those people who think animals have the same rights as humans, or should have. Now, among them the vast majority of them (that I have had any dealings with) have no problem with abortion at all. Perhaps you should clear up such things before going on the attack? Just a thought.


6th June 2008, 06:16am
#138
by Rabid_Dog
Manchester United Kingdom
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 237

Oh here goes...

I'm a vegetarian (25 years) but I don't hate meat eaters.  I accept 'corpse-crunching' as an acceptable diet.  I just don't like factory farming where animals are treated harshly. 

I support Peta/Greenpeace and others in their work to prevent animal suffering but I accept that their actions sometimes go too far.

I don't like dolphins and porpoises being caught during the catching of other species but I accept that sometimes it can't be helped if people are to eat.

I don't like fluffy kittens and cute dogs being put down if there is no home but I accept that sometimes there is no alternative. But I don't accept unnecessary cruelty.

I hate abortion in all its forms, whether legal or illegal and I don't condone it as an alternative form of birth control but I accept that in some cases it is the right of the woman to choose.

I don't agree with many of the opinions expressed on these forums but I accept that everyone has a right to hold and express an opinion.  If you wish to do so then accept that I have the right to disagree with you.

Am I wrong.  Possibly.  Am I a hypocrite. Probably.

But life is hard and complex.  It is not a Black and White world with easy choices all the time.  You may think that I sit on the fence with my views but it's a big wide fence with plenty of space for everyone. Sitting up here you can at least listen to others.  You might even learn something.


6th June 2008, 06:30am
#139
by Rabid_Dog
Manchester United Kingdom
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 237
...and I like to swear
6th June 2008, 07:14am
#140
by starbug
Scotland
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 34
"Disable Chat" is your friend.

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