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23rd May 2008, 08:16am
#1
by timmaylivinalie
the couch Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 519

have any of you been warned about cursing on this site? i've just been warned again about usin' expletives and apparently, next time i'm banned permanently. so, i was thinkin if i get a premium membership i can get away with a little more or will they just refund my money and kick me off anyways?

 


23rd May 2008, 08:29am
#2
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1806
If you are going to swear, why not keep it to yourself?  No sense in typing that kind of stuff...Besides, it's just a game...better to say positive things than negative...
23rd May 2008, 08:32am
#3
by thernandez78550
harlingen, texas United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 23
i agree keep your &*(^^%%%$##@@ language to yourself.  just kidding.
23rd May 2008, 08:37am
#4
by timmaylivinalie
the couch Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 519

keeping it to myself is one idea, not one i'm happy with tho.

i rarely swear during a game, more-so while posting in forums to emphasize a point or for humorous purposes and i don't even use the really "bad" words..i think they gotta lighten up a bit.


23rd May 2008, 08:56am
#5
by hondoham
North Carolina USA and Honduras
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 579
when i swear i use !@@@$??!%^&&*** keys.  i would never use the # key however.  I wouldn't want people to think i was raised in a barn.
23rd May 2008, 09:14am
#6
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1806

What is the purpose of having to express your anger to your opponent through purposely punching keys?  Do you have to let them know you are angry because you are winning, losing, drawing, whatever the reason?  Either you are very angry, and you just want to let people know it, or what?  If you have a compulsion to swear, why not at least show some respect for other players?  When I get angry (actually frustrated with myself when I make a boneheaded mistake that loses me a piece), I attack my opponent like crazy, hoping that the pressure I create on their position will compensate for my error.  The last time I blundered a piece, I went for an all-out pawnstorm on their queenside, and they became passive quickly.  Then I went in for a piece attack against their king, pinning and winning a knight - I won back my piece.  I used my aggressive emotions positively.  Instead of swearing. 

Swearing may be fun, but there are much better ways to vent frustration...try applying that energy into creating a winning chess position.  I think the results will follow :-)


23rd May 2008, 09:24am
#7
by Baseballfan
Durham, North Carolina United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1872

As a parent, Im glad for that rule. I'd rather small children who are reading not be learning to talk like that. No, I am not naive, I do realize that they are going to learn those words, and in fact, they already have learned many of them. But I'd still prefer to limit their exposure to them.

Don't misunderstand, in the right setting, I swear with the best of them. But in a place where there are kids, or even in polite society in general, the respectfull thing is to refrain from using them. The english language has many hundreads of thousands of words. Perhaps it would do us all some good to learn a few more of them ;-)


23rd May 2008, 09:27am
#8
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1806
King_William wrote: Birdbrain, if you stopped using the word "boneheaded" you might become chess world champ...

Thanks for the chess advice, I will make that a part of my opening repertoire :-)...


23rd May 2008, 09:29am
#9
by KnightNotHorse
Northern Virginia United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 829
hondoham wrote: when i swear i use !@@@$??!%^&&*** keys.  i would never use the # key however.  I wouldn't want people to think i was raised in a barn.

 That was hilarious!  NICE!!!  Laughing


23rd May 2008, 09:29am
#10
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 10118

there is an old saying that your right to throw a punch ends at the tip of my nose.

a person's right to express themself does not trump other people's rights not to be offended. obviously a line that must be drawn at some point, and we have drawn ours. i understand that swearing is sometimes used for some people's kind of humor, but that is best kept in groups where that is understood to be accepted, not in the general public.

i'm sure there are places to play chess with more tolerance for abuse or swearing, but not chess.com :) 


23rd May 2008, 09:32am
#11
by timmaylivinalie
the couch Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 519
i'm also a parent-scary, i know- but all i'm sayin' is that the words that can be spoken on primetime television should be allowed here. i was scorned for saying butt____ for chris sakes!
23rd May 2008, 09:33am
#12
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 10118
if you feel that somebody was overly critical, feel free to drop me a note :)
23rd May 2008, 09:35am
#13
by timmaylivinalie
the couch Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 519
timmaylivinalie wrote: i'm also a parent-scary, i know- but all i'm sayin' is that the words that can be spoken on primetime television should be allowed here. i was scorned for saying butt____ for chris sakes!

 ^ocks^ being the missing letters fyi


23rd May 2008, 09:38am
#14
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 10118
really? ok. then that is too much. please message me privately about who did that.
23rd May 2008, 09:46am
#15
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1806
King_William wrote: BirdBrain wrote: King_William wrote: Birdbrain, if you stopped using the word "boneheaded" you might become chess world champ...

Thanks for the chess advice, I will make that a part of my opening repertoire :-)...


It wasn't chess advice. It was advice on how to channel you frustrations...


If you couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic.  Your advice is silly.  I know how to take care of frustrations, and I was trying to pass on some positive advice to the originator of this post.  "Boneheaded" is a statement about me making a poor choice on the chessboard (case in hand - I let my opponent fork my pieces in the opening).  To lose a piece can be frustrating, but there are better ways to take care of frustration than swearing. 

Maybe you should focus your attention to helping timmaylivinalie with the issue he asked for advice about. 


23rd May 2008, 09:52am
#16
by GarrMaster
Chicago, USA United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 147

this is an interesting string.

one should be able to verbally express oneself with profanity.

BUT - one shouldn't type offensive verbal darts. NO need.

 


23rd May 2008, 10:03am
#17
by killGoose
Puerto Rico
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 251

I understand your frustration, Timmay. To be quite honest, for a lady I have a mighty dirty mouth when I play with people face to face. I think part of the issue is that there are many religiously inclined people on this site who might find those words offensive. For the sake of having all sorts of people enjoy, why not tone it down a bit? Besides, sometimes "Mother Fornicator" is far more hilarious than anything else ;).

Dung!

Dirty Bottom!

Why don't you go fork yourself?

/in before I get banned 


23rd May 2008, 10:04am
#18
by timmaylivinalie
the couch Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 519
GarrMaster wrote:

this is an interesting string.

one should be able to verbally express oneself with profanity.

BUT - one shouldn't type offensive verbal darts. NO need.

 


 in the past i've been guilty of the "offensive verbal darts" but that was with people that were shooting them right back. i don't curse at people in forums, if i insult, i expect to be insulted back. i can laugh at myself and i shouldn't be taken seriously..it's part of my shtick. i agree that the 7 big bad words should be kept out of public viewing for the wee ones sake and i like you feel the rest, as long as they're not meant to demean should be open for usage.


23rd May 2008, 10:06am
#19
by timmaylivinalie
the couch Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 519
killGoose wrote:

I understand your frustration, Timmay. To be quite honest, for a lady I have a mighty dirty mouth when I play with people face to face. I think part of the issue is that there are many religiously inclined people on this site who might find those words offensive. For the sake of having all sorts of people enjoy, why not tone it down a bit? Besides, sometimes "Mother Fornicator" is far more hilarious than anything else ;).

Dung!

Dirty Bottom!

Why don't you go fork yourself?

/in before I get banned 


 you're right, i think i'll just have to be more creative and come up with my own brand of expletives that won't offend...maybe just leave one scratching their heads :)


23rd May 2008, 10:17am
#20
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 4617

Swearing is actually an invaluable part of the English language -- what's important to recognize here, though, is that you have to consider your audience:

  • Do I swear in my social circle? Absolutely, they expect it and would probably take me to get my head checked if I didn't.
  • Do I swear at work?  Sparingly, but if I decide that it will serve a purpose, like making sure that my point is not only heard, but that it's fully understood how serious I am -- this is where it's value as a part of the language is most evident.
  • Do I swear when I'm a guest in someone's house?  No, with some exceptions based on the social circle point above.  If it's not a close friend who I know won't be offended then it's just downright disrespectful.
  • Do I swear in front of my parents or children?  No, again: downright disrespectful.

I think swearing at Chess.com falls into the latter two categories -- We are in Erik's house, and it's not like we're unsure how he feels about it: it's been very clearly stated as a part of the terms of service.  Furthermore, there are children who use this site -- let's keep it a safe and clean place for them to play chess.

All that being said, in order for the terms of service to be enforceable and fair, I think it's important that everyone have a common understanding of what constitutes swearing.

 


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