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Incredible Blitz vs Online Rating Disparity


  • 13 months ago · Quote · #81

    Mr_Tarkanian

    I didn't mean any of this thread to offend people.  I just thought that near master level players should be able to beat 1200 players in blitz.  Maybe, like you say, sometimes under time control, a person just freezes.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #82

    Mr_Tarkanian

    Oh!  and I highly doubt I'm a better player than you, Oort.  2128 rocks, seriously.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #83

    0ort

    I'm not sure that a 2000+ online rating really neccessarily equates to anything like near master level. A near master that took online chess seriously and used all the available and legal tools would probably be more like 2400 or above.

    As for freezing under time control, I'm not sure if thats quite the right way to put it, rather I think the two forms just require quite different styles of play. Online requires consistenly good quality moves throughout a game and sound positional and strategic play whereas blitz seems much more about good intuitive, instinctive play and sharp, quick calculating. Personally I don't find it that surprising that some people are much better at one type than the other.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #84

    0ort

    Oh and thanks for the compliment! By the way I'm super jealous of your blitz rating :)

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #85

    Mr_Tarkanian

    I'll state it more directly then.  You don't find it surprising that 2000 plus rated players cannot beat 1200 players in 3 or 5min Blitz ( not mouseclicking Bullet )?

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #86

    Mr_Tarkanian

    0ort wrote:

    Oh and thanks for the compliment! By the way I'm super jealous of your blitz rating :)


    I'd rather have your Online rating than my Blitz rating.  Lets trade!  :)

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #87

    0ort

    I don't find it surprising because I myself suffer from this terrible affliction. Given time I can come up with good moves most of the time but with only 5 to 10 seconds per move I turn into a complete patzer. And seriously, if you want a better online rating, take your time and when you feel the need, use the tools that are readily available. I'm pretty sure your rating will skyrocket.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #88

    0ort

    By the way I'm not saying no one cheats. I've encountered a fair few cheaters myself while playing online (people who crushed me and were later banned).

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #89

    Ziryab

    Mr_Tarkanian wrote:

    I'll state it more directly then.  You don't find it surprising that 2000 plus rated players cannot beat 1200 players in 3 or 5min Blitz ( not mouseclicking Bullet )?

    I'm a bit higher than 2000 in Online. In fact, I'm always terribly upset when I occasionally drop below 2000 (seems as though its been two years or more since that depressive losing streak). My blitz rating vacillates between mid-1800s (rare) and mid-1400s (on very bad days). On those bad days, I usually lose a few games to 1200s. Other days, I usually beat them more than 95% of the time.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #90

    Math0t

    Mr_Tarkanian wrote:

    When I play Online games, I do the same thing as you guys, except I make my moves within 2 to 3 minutes tops.

    I even use more time than that when playing (slow) OTB games! Of course I am forced to speed up later in the game because I will lose on time otherwise, but when there is no acute time pressure the average time per move is at least 5 minutes, and 15 minutes or more on one move is not uncommon. I am not sure how much time I use Online, but it's certainly much more than those 5 minutes per move (although over an hour is rare for me).

    Also, as others already mentioned, when the position is tactically complicated I often delay the dicision one or more days, often the position is much clearer after a nights sleep.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #91

    pogo85

    bro u need to go and get a life instead on thinking about others i jst saw ur profile pic u look like 50years+ so get off from the couch and earn some cashhh

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #92

    0ort

    pogo85 wrote:

    bro u need to go and get a life instead on thinking about others i jst saw ur profile pic u look like 50years+ so get off from the couch and earn some cashhh

    bahaha!! Indian homies be tellin' it like it iz yo. Keep it real bro, u ain't no try hard gangsta are ya

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #93

    Oraoradeki

    Interesting topic. I think that "Online Ratings" are fairly accurate (Compared to OTB ratings) as long as YOU DON'T CHEAT. 

    OTB has both elements of the game, the blitz and the long think porportion. For example, when in time trouble, the player has to blitz out the moves, while with more time the player can make more accurate moves. 

    I don't know if its good or not but maybe if we take both and take average of it to see a player's true strength? 

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #94

    Ziryab

    I think percentile scores mean more. There, however, one must understand that the Chess.com pool is heavily tilted towards the casual player. If you are in the top ten percent of players in your nation, expect to be in the top 5% on Chess.com.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #95

    Mr_Tarkanian

    pogo85 wrote:

    bro u need to go and get a life instead on thinking about others i jst saw ur profile pic u look like 50years+ so get off from the couch and earn some cashhh

    Are you referring to me?  If I look 50 years plus, shouldn't I already be retired and not needing to earn "caaaaash"??  I don't get it - I guess you figure that out and get back with us.


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