Is blindfold chess harmful?

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17th April 2009, 10:09pm
#1
by ruso2009
Cordoba Argentina
Member Since: Sep 2008
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I am considering playing blindfold chess in order to enhance my OTB vision but I heard rumors it can be dangerous to one's mental health. Is this true? Does anybody here practice blindfold chess? Opinions are welcome, thanks

17th April 2009, 10:18pm
#2
by vtchess
Vermont United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 16

I've been playing blindfold chess for about six months now and i think it has helped me a lot. I don't know how it could hurt.

17th April 2009, 10:22pm
#3
by colle-pirc
purcellville United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 379

blindfold chess kills.  hahaha but yeah i play it helps with the visualization!

17th April 2009, 10:25pm
#4
by icexoke
Virginia Beach United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 2

I was really curious after I read your post because I had never heard of it being dangerous. But according to wikipedia and this website, simultaneous chess exhibitions in the Soviet Union were banned for health concerns. I haven't found anything specific though. My guess is that if you don't overdue it you will be fine. But that's not a professional medical opinion. haha. Also I have never tried it (it's above my level of play, for sure). 

http://www.chessclub.com/resources/articles/article11_7.html

17th April 2009, 10:51pm
#5
by nimzovich
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 743

In the (expensive) beautifully bound, scholarly text, "Blindfold Chess: History, Psychology, Techniques, Champions, World Records, and Important Games", by Eliot HearstJohn Knott, includes a seven page chapter entitled, "The Supposed Health Hazards".

The authors cite quotes by world champions Capablanca and Kasparov about their respective aversions of blindfold chess, but note that both players performed multi-game blindfold exhibitions. Also noted was the longevity of two blindfold world record holders (Koltanowski & Najdorf) who lived into their nineties.

For previous blindfold champions (de la Bourdonnais, Kieseritzky, Morphy, Zukertort, and, perhaps most famously, Pillsbury) who died of comparatively young age, the authors give evidence that in each case it is highly unlikely that blindfold exhibitions contributed to the early demise.

The persistent rumor that blindfold chess was forbidden in the former Soviet Union appears to be unfounded.

The authors do note that shortly after multi-game displays, it is not uncommon for the performer to experience insomnia, and those who sleep soon after an exhibition may experience temporary difficulty driving the chess images from their minds.

The bottom line by the authors is that readers should not be frightened off in trying to become adept at blindfold chess by the reported experiences.

A wonderful resource discussing blindfold chess is Jonathan Tisdall's highly recommended "Improve Your Chess Now". In the book's second chapter entitled, "Blindfold Chess and Stepping Stones", the author notes that, "when one calculates one is playing blindfold, therefore we are ding this virtually every move." Tisdall provides ideas for strengthening the visualization muscles that could be worth reviewing for aspiring blindfold artists.

 

 

17th April 2009, 10:55pm
#6
by nimzovich
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 743
icexoke wrote:

I was really curious after I read your post because I had never heard of it being dangerous. But according to wikipedia and this website, simultaneous chess exhibitions in the Soviet Union were banned for health concerns. I haven't found anything specific though. My guess is that if you don't overdue it you will be fine. But that's not a professional medical opinion. haha. Also I have never tried it (it's above my level of play, for sure). 

http://www.chessclub.com/resources/articles/article11_7.html


Not all authorities agree on the alleged health issues attributed to blindfold exhibitions.

17th April 2009, 11:03pm
#7
by ozshmbal
Dominical Costa Rica
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 53

My opinion is that blindfolded is not only bad for your vision, but the practice can also place an undo burden on you against a visually perceptible world.

18th April 2009, 12:06am
#8
by mnag
San Diego United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 136

In the most recent New In Chess magazine (2009 #2, pages 101-105), Hans Ree discusses  blindfold chess and focuses on reviewing Hearst and Knott's concepts in their book Blindfold Chess. He repeats their conclusion that blindfold chess is not harmful except for the exhustion following the exhibition. As for the assumption that the Soviet Union forbade blindfold chess for health reasons, he paraphases Hort and Kasparov. Hort said " ... no Soviet master wanted to do it because it is very tiring." While Kasparov pointed out  ".. that one merely needed approval and medical oversight." Quoting Ree " ,,,it seems likely that blindfold exhibitions were discouraged, ..."

18th April 2009, 12:17am
#9
by corean
South Korea
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 198
patrickapierce wrote:

I'm sorry, but what is Blindfold Chess?


yes what is blindfold chess exactly? is it when u cover your eyes and play chess without looking or just plain playing without a chessboard?

18th April 2009, 12:45am
#10
by Beast719
LLANTRISANT Wales
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 491

Source: The Beast of Chess - my autobiography

In order to emulate these feats and cement my legacy I have been practising at home the unique techniques required to play blindfold at the highest level. After the untimely demise of young chess prodigy and former Welsh Champion - Dai Young whilst attempting to conquer 50 boards blindfold I have sensed that my time is now, my destiny is near.  I have learned from his mistakes and will not use a Lidl carrier-bag tied with electric flex. I have been experimenting with a thick flannelette pillow-case and duct tape. 

Teething problems abound: I have found that I knock most of the pieces over when I try to make my moves and anyway after about 4 or 5 moves I start to forget where all the pieces are on the board and after about 20 minutes I start to black out.  How did they do it?

I am thinking of trying a poly-cotton mix with breathing holes cut through.

It really is so difficult that I am also beginning to suspect think that these feats are not possible and that Morphy, Alekhine et al were just sophisticated fraudsters.  There is conspicuously little or no video evidence of them performing their blindfold tasks.  I can’t believe it is possible.  They must have cut small eyeholes in their pillow-cases.

18th April 2009, 03:18am
#11
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 4056

Over the years I have played a few games of blindfold chess but never more than one game at a time. I have had some decent results , winning a game against an A class player and a win against a 2300 ( uscf ) player but with the 2300 we were both playing "blindfold" as we were playing in a car during a trip to a tournament together. I have founf that the most difficult opponents for me to play blindfold against are people who are not "book/tournament" players. They make moves which make no sense, fit no pattern/opening thus making is much more difficult to recall where everything is on the board.....leading to more frequent blunders for me....

18th April 2009, 12:19pm
#12
by JG27Pyth
NYC United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1455

Lasker attributed Pillsbury's madness and untimely death to his straining his faculties with large Blindfold simul demonstrations.. we all now know of course, it was syphillis that did poor Pillsbury in.

The authors do note that shortly after multi-game displays, it is not uncommon for the performer to experience insomnia, and those who sleep soon after an exhibition may experience temporary difficulty driving the chess images from their minds.

I recall reading one (I believe Russian) GM discussing blindfold chess saying he wanted to see if he could do more than one board, and tried a small simul, and was surprised at how easy he found it, but played no further blindfold chess when later that evening he couldn't get chess positions from the games he'd played out of his head. One got the distinct impression that he found the experience punishing.

 


18th April 2009, 01:22pm
#13
by paul211
Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1815

Before you play blindfold consider 2 things:

1. How many moves in your best opening can you play without looking at the board? I can go 20+ moves.

2. Play a game  from both sides moving the pieces in your head while you stare at the board and at each and every move you will play next, close your eyes and vizualize the board with the pieces, I believe that this exercise will help you decide if you should play blindfold or not

Give it a try. Just my opinion.

18th April 2009, 01:26pm
#14
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 22962

Huh, it's harmless.

18th April 2009, 01:33pm
#15
by mynd_zye
International
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 88

Bottom line here is dont do it. It has been known to cause the practitioner to hear voices, see hallucinations, destroy personal relationships, and lose all contact with what was formerly known as reality.

 

Just kidding. The truth of the matter is that it can only help in the visualization of the outcomes while calculating long variations, which is everything.

18th April 2009, 03:16pm
#16
by BlueDevilKnight
United States
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Member Points: 55
nimzovich wrote:
The authors do note that shortly after multi-game displays, it is not uncommon for the performer to experience insomnia, and those who sleep soon after an exhibition may experience temporary difficulty driving the chess images from their minds.


In other words, they experience what everyone experiences after a grueling day of chess. Tongue out

18th April 2009, 03:25pm
#17
by Puchiko
Prague Czech Republic
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 105
BlueDevilKnight wrote:
nimzovich wrote:
The authors do note that shortly after multi-game displays, it is not uncommon for the performer to experience insomnia, and those who sleep soon after an exhibition may experience temporary difficulty driving the chess images from their minds.

 


In other words, they experience what everyone experiences after a grueling day of chess.


Good to hear I am not alone! I always see a chess board with pieces before falling asleep, I make my move, respond, until another situation appears... and then I fall asleep. I always play live chess before bed, so I'm glad to hear it's normal to expirience this.

17th November 2009, 10:01am
#18
by smileative
Spain Channel Islands
Member Since: Oct 2009
Member Points: 74

In Budapest once - on a chess jaunt - I dragged the whole multinational bunch into the centre of the city for a night on the tiles. While travelling in I played a Luxembourger a game in our heads - checkmated him about 32 moves into it - an' discovered that the consumption of copious amounts of beer, wine and spirits totally erased any images of chess from my mind whatsoever.

This may have been enhanced by small confrontation with casino staff or ear-bashing from my girlfriend; but I suggest anybody suffering from this syndrome apply copious amounts of alcohol and you'll soon find you've got other things to worry about Smile

17th November 2009, 10:08am
#19
by sasha2
Waterloo, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 412
ruso2009 wrote:

I am considering playing blindfold chess in order to enhance my OTB vision but I heard rumors it can be dangerous to one's mental health. Is this true? Does anybody here practice blindfold chess? Opinions are welcome, thanks


 In the Soviet Union, it was illegal.

17th November 2009, 10:18am
#20
by RainbowRising
United Kingdom
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 2944
Reb wrote:

Over the years I have played a few games of blindfold chess but never more than one game at a time. I have had some decent results , winning a game against an A class player and a win against a 2300 ( uscf ) player but with the 2300 we were both playing "blindfold" as we were playing in a car during a trip to a tournament together. I have founf that the most difficult opponents for me to play blindfold against are people who are not "book/tournament" players. They make moves which make no sense, fit no pattern/opening thus making is much more difficult to recall where everything is on the board.....leading to more frequent blunders for me....


My understanding of blindfold chess was that you were given a board and had a copy of all the moves that had been made? Is this incorrect?

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