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Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?


  • 6 months ago · Quote · #961

    AndyClifton

    Wow, that Burden game was just tragic (the poor guy).  An apt last name if ever there was one.  Presumably time trouble had a good deal to do with that outcome...anyway, I'd be switching to checkers pretty soon (and permanently) after a debacle like that.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #962

    Elubas

    I'm sure it was irritating. I would think though what really made the situation difficult to swallow, is that this "easy win" would not have been just a win, but a GM scalp, quite probably his first one!

    Still, I don't think he should beat himself up too much; he should just admit to himself, he didn't approach the game in the right way, and just erase all of the problems that kept him from winning the game. I once lost a game where I won a whole piece against a class A player (I was a B player though), straight out of the opening, but I wanted the win to be too automatic, drifted with my play, my position getting incrementally worse, and eventually just collapsing.

    But today, I feel totally fine about it. I know I approached that game incorrectly, but I learned from it and don't think it would happen again. Not to say I won't get swindled again, but it won't be because of me trying to take a vacation from finding a plan even after winning lots of material.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #963

    AndyClifton

    I wasn't speaking literally (good grief).

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #964

    Elubas

    Ok, I wasn't sure. Of course I didn't think it was completely literal, that is, that you were suggesting he quit chess, but you still seemed to give the message that it would be a really tough problem to recover from. Just a small miscommunication, no big deal.

    Anyway, that's how I generally feel about getting over those things.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #965

    FEDTEL

    SmyslovFan wrote:

    If you think it's easy to beat a GM when they are down material, take a look at this game. Christiansen was rated about 2550 at the time, and Jim Burden was about 2150. Jim later went on to become a master.

     

    good game, but here Burden played excellent chess at first then played like a patzer late on ;sorry for this but Houdini showes that Burden could mate on move 44 in 4 moves, and when you have a forced mate in 4 and you manage to lose then you must be playing like a patzer, additionally, white has spoiled over 8 mating opportunities in that match! let alone the blunders all over the place, what was the TC?

    btw what a blunder that was by Christiansen! dropping the queen, that is much sounder than karpov's one Wink 

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #966

    SmyslovFan

    Good catch, FEDTEL! After the game, Jim did find the mate in four.

    But I think it's really telling that none of the 1300 rated players here found it!

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #967

    FEDTEL

    SmyslovFan wrote:

    Good catch, FEDTEL! After the game, Jim did find the mate in four.

    But I think it's really telling that none of the 1300 rated players here found it!

    after the game is a bit too late.....

    you defeated Christiansen!, can I see the game please?

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #969

    SmyslovFan

    FEDTEL, I don't post simul wins unless I'm the one giving the simul. It's not proper etiquette. I won due to a blunder. Nothing glamourous there.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #970

    solskytz

    Nothing wrong with posting simul wins... and advertising other guys' blunders - even GMs. 

    Alternative title for this thread: can a hamster beat a tiger in wrestling?

    Of course he can! If he's trained in elementary hamsterial martial arts. He can just lodge itself in, you guessed it - the eye of the tiger!

    The 2700 can suddenly have something in his eye, distracting him from the game. He'll politely ask the 1300 for a draw. The 1300 will determinedly say, NO! The 2700 will curse him, resign the game and look quickly for an eye doctor. 

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #971

    alanpie

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  • 6 months ago · Quote · #972

    FEDTEL

    solskytz wrote:

    Nothing wrong with posting simul wins... and advertising other guys' blunders - even GMs. 

    Alternative title for this thread: can a hamster beat a tiger in wrestling?

    Of course he can! If he's trained in elementary hamsterial martial arts. He can just lodge itself in, you guessed it - the eye of the tiger!

    The 2700 can suddenly have something in his eye, distracting him from the game. He'll politely ask the 1300 for a draw. The 1300 will determinedly say, NO! The 2700 will curse him, resign the game and look quickly for an eye doctor. 

    so now I'm right Wink

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #973

    Scottrf

    Is there any chance that Vishy Anand can beat a 2700 rated player?

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #974

    FEDTEL

    Scottrf wrote:

    Is there any chance that Vishy Anand can beat a 2700 rated player?

    Hmmmm....... let  me think.....Undecided

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #975

    Scottrf

    17 straight draws...

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #977

    Scottrf

    Bluebird1964 wrote:

    A 1300 rated player will NEVER defeat a Super GM 2700 in a normal game.

    Show me such a result from a "normal" OTB game with sensible time controls and I will happily eat humble pie.

    Robin Moss FM

    Why are you paying for a membership when you can get it for free as an FM?

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #978

    FEDTEL

    Bluebird1964 wrote:

    A 1300 rated player will NEVER defeat a Super GM 2700 in a normal game.

    Show me such a result from a "normal" OTB game with sensible time controls and I will happily eat humble pie.

    Robin Moss FM

    it didn't happen doesn't mean it won't in the future.....

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #980

    Scottrf

    Ah OK, you should join Team England. http://www.chess.com/groups/home/team-england


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