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Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #961


    Even more simply, you can't rate games with a time handicap.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #962


    even a high rated player can have off days in there playing techniques so i would say yes its possiblefor a 1300 player to beat a 2700 player

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #963


    One of Kasparov's great accomplishments was playing clock simuls against entire Olympiad teams and having plus scores.

    Suggesting that such events should be rated is absurd though. The psychology and atmosphere of a simul is completely different from that of a serious tournament or match event.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #964


    Scottrf wrote:

    Even more simply, you can't rate games with a time handicap.

    That's a simple statement but doesn't explain why.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #965


    In order for a rating to have meaning, the playing conditions must be equal, Clavier.

    Even when the playing conditions are equal other conditions must be met, such as time controls and so on. The Melody Amber events were equal but the blindfold tournament was unrated. The rapid chess was unrated for many years also.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #966


    Why is pretty obvious.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #967


    bobyyyy wrote:
    ...player is so drunk he can barely walk...

    I once heard of a story of some guys that gave a GM free drinks just before a tournament, the GM still won. It looks that alchohol doesn't not interfer that much.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #968


    TheZenMaster wrote:

    there is a huge difference in 2700 and say, 2450. Sure the 2450 rated player eats sleeps and breathes chess (in general), but not like a 2700 player. 27 usually means top 30ish in the world.

    47, currently. 51 a month or so ago. http://ratings.fide.com/top.phtml?list=men

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #969


    If you're +2700, you have a good shot at beating anyone in the world not named Carlsen. That includes the current world champion. Carlsen is currently making everyone U2800 look like a fish. It's incredible to watch!

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  • 3 years ago · Quote · #971


    Everyone is human :) Even Kasparov sometimes blunders - http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=kZqcT66Fkzw - and if you can capitalise on that mistake then sure, you might win ;)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #972


    I managed to beat Swedish GM Nils Grandelius in a game of 10 minutes blitz back when he was eleven years old and "only" had a 2000-something rating, while I played on the level of someone rated ~1600 (I didn't play many games though so I had a much lower actual rating than that). But we played in the same club and were friends so he tried to toy with me a bit and ended up underestimating me. In a real game back then I wouldn't manage to beat him, not a chance. Now when he's 2500-something the thought of me beating him is just laughable, and I dominate a 1300.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #973


    Agreed, CSF. Some people seem to think that chess is a game of chance. Luck plays a very small role in chess, and certainly does not enter into the calculation of whether a 1300 could beat a 2700 in tournament conditions.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #974


    Well of course it'll vary. Sometimes it may take 1.5 million tries; sometimes you'll luck out and get it in .4 million tries; it's the same thing with any probability.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #975


    Imagine how many years it would take to play 1.5 million games.  If my math is correct, it's close to 3 years of constant 1 minute games, assuming they're all exactly 2 minutes.

    But as Elubas pointed out, the number of tries varies.  It could happen on the first game.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #976


    It could happen on the first game! And then on the second game! And then on the third game! And on the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth game!! And after that? Every every every every every freaking game!


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #977


    Maybe if the 1300 was possessed by Fischer, Alkehine, Capablanca and Tal at the same time.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #978


    I think the 1300 player could win if the 2700 dies at the board. Only way really. I played a 2200 player once he kicked my ass 5 games playing blind. LOL.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #979


    Your best chance is against Ivanchuk. He can beat anyone on a good day, but he has more than his share of bad days.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #980


    yes, most definatly, thats why i left tourament games, most of the top players were cheating, so if they forget to use the chess seaarch engine, you will win some of your games

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