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Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1061

    ClavierCavalier

    cookiemonster161140 wrote:

    Don't have time to read all 49 pages but at tournaments I have seen 1600 players beat 2200 players, 1800 players beat 2300 players and I know an A-class player who drew with a GM once.

    Consistently play at that level, well DUH not likely - otherwise they wouldn't have such low ratings!

    But you have to remember that there are several types of lower rated players. Those that are moving up, those who are stable, and those who are over rated.

    My nephew once lost a game to Nakamura...N's rating at the time was about 1300.

    Their nephew's was 557...  :-p

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1062

    ekorbdal

    Which type of chess are you talking about? I only play online chess and would suggest to you that playing that format, the answer would be -

    No chance.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1063

    Estragon

    cookiemonster161140 wrote:

    Don't have time to read all 49 pages but at tournaments I have seen 1600 players beat 2200 players, 1800 players beat 2300 players and I know an A-class player who drew with a GM once.

    Consistently play at that level, well DUH not likely - otherwise they wouldn't have such low ratings!

    But you have to remember that there are several types of lower rated players. Those that are moving up, those who are stable, and those who are over rated.

    My nephew once lost a game to Nakamura...N's rating at the time was about 1300.

    But the question isn't could a 1600 ever beat a 2200, it is could a 1300 ever beat a 2700?  A million examples of lesser upsets wouldn't change the question.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1065

    HotBoxRes

    There's a chance if the 1300 is actually a master-level player who is simply underrated.

    But otherwise, the chance is very slim to none.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1066

    kenikinkoo

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1067

    kenikinkoo

    a lower rated player can beat a higher rated player i am a 1260 rated ..and ive beaten a 1800 rated player at the time iwas rated lower than i am now ..ok you can argue fluke..its possible but chess is about a degree of skill..., luck,...and how you play on the day..yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh chess rulesCool

     
  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1068

    linuxblue1

    There is hope.

    You play a man called B. Ivanov who is 2700. He loses the connection to his chess computer.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1069

    FirebrandX

    "The question has been answered, Logan 5".

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1070

    Ziryab

    It takes a lot of work to go from master to grandmaster, and those over 2700 snack on ordinary grandmasters. There is no way that an underrated but highly skilled player at 1300 is in the class of those who can upset the world's elite (top 50).

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1071

    segway123

    I'll take a 2700 any day, but I would have no chance.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1072

    BMeck

    I do not believe it is possible. Thats like getting Vishy Anand to play me.... He could easily beat me while multiple pieces down. He could make several blunders and still win easily.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1073

    TetsuoShima

    no they have no chance, unless the 1300 is a trolling GM

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1074

    chessarran8

    hahah all the comments saying no make me laugh because yes, it is very unlikely but is not impossible 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1075

    Ziryab

    Those who harbor hope for the 1300 have no understanding of the skill level of a 1300. I win 95% of my games against 1300s, and would lose a higher percentage to 2700s if I played them.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1076

    pingo420

    Don't have time to read all 49 pages but at tournaments I have seen 1600 players beat 2200 players, 1800 players beat 2300 players and I know an A-class player who drew with a GM once.

    Consistently play at that level, well DUH not likely - otherwise they wouldn't have such low ratings!

    But you have to remember that there are several types of lower rated players. Those that are moving up, those who are stable, and those who are over rated.

    My nephew once lost a game to Nakamura...N's rating at the time was about 1300.

     

    Talk about swiss gambit!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1077

    2movemate

    It's possible of course, but so probabilistically unlikely it would almost never happen ever in real life unless the GM falls asleep and loses on time or something. The 1300's best chance would be to memorize some completely obscure not known at all trap opening, and even if the GM has never seen it before 99.999999% of the time they will not fall from it just because of their instincts and ability to see far ahead.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1078

    pt22064

    One of my sons once won a prize for biggest upset in a tournament. I think it was a500 or 600 point differential. Of course, my son was probably slightly under-rated since he had only just started playing. Also at lower ratings, players can make big blunders that even players several hundred points lower can take advantage of. GMs rated 2700 make few mistakes, and their mistakes are rather subtle.

    Rasparovov wrote:

    tieics wrote:

    I think if there is 300 ELO point difference between  two players it's no point playing the game. Practically the player with lower ELO has 0 winning chance.

    I won against a guy rated 509 points ahead of me. With black. After 23 moves.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1079

    Ziryab

    I gave up a 500+ point upset in a game 10. 1400 points is a whole other kettle of fish, especially whan you consider that 2700 is not just some GM, but a member of the world's elite and a household name among chess playing families.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1080

    strngdrvnthng

    If the rating difference is 735 or more the higher rated player should win 100% of the games. If the difference is between 291-302 then the higher rated player should win 85%.


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