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Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?


  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1101

    pt22064

    One of my sons once won a prize for biggest upset in a tournament. I think it was a500 or 600 point differential. Of course, my son was probably slightly under-rated since he had only just started playing. Also at lower ratings, players can make big blunders that even players several hundred points lower can take advantage of. GMs rated 2700 make few mistakes, and their mistakes are rather subtle.

    Rasparovov wrote:

    tieics wrote:

    I think if there is 300 ELO point difference between  two players it's no point playing the game. Practically the player with lower ELO has 0 winning chance.

    I won against a guy rated 509 points ahead of me. With black. After 23 moves.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1102

    Ziryab

    I gave up a 500+ point upset in a game 10. 1400 points is a whole other kettle of fish, especially whan you consider that 2700 is not just some GM, but a member of the world's elite and a household name among chess playing families.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1103

    strngdrvnthng

    If the rating difference is 735 or more the higher rated player should win 100% of the games. If the difference is between 291-302 then the higher rated player should win 85%.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1104

    Suvel

    unlikely

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1105

    houdini1_5a

    Possible if 1300 has 16 pieces and 2700 has a king.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1106

    JoseO

    For a 1300 player to beat a 2700 would require something very unusual to happen. Either a bribe or the 2700 loses on time because they left to watch a more interesting game and did not notice the time slipping away. I guess there is also the threat of bodily harm if the 1300 player is strong and threatens the 2700 if they win. Example would be like in Star Wars where R2D2 had to let the wookie win or else the wookie would tear off his arm.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1107

    pt22064

    It's also possible that the 2700 player is letting the 1300 win - for example, if he is the coach and wants to encourage the student and build the student's confidence. I also know parents that let their kids win at games in general, especially if their kids get upset when they lose. I myself have never purposely lost to my kids or even intentionally made a bad move in a game against them, although I used to let them take back moves ("are you sure you want to make that move?") or pointed out threats. Nowadays, they are better than me -- and they never show me any mercy!

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1108

    SmyslovFan

    Pt, the stipulation was a tournament/match where the 2700 had an incentive to win.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1109

    psiphi1

         simply stated: yes

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1110

    TetsuoShima

    psiphi1 wrote:

    yes,IF,the higher ranked is giving a simultaneous,plays skittles,doesn't take his opp. seriously or gives him odds. But if you mean a tournament game,then the ansswer is still YES,but very rarely. How? Being human we are all susceptible to aberrations,loss of concentration,errors,or just plain didn't see  it,or looking a forced mate 17 moves deep and getting so excited that he plays move 14 for move 13-THE GAME IS LOST.   This actually happened to a player!!

    there was a tournament were a 2700 rated player played a 1300 rated player?????

    what was the tournament called??

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1111

    Atomic_Rift

    John Nunn lost to a kid.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1112

    psiphi1

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  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1113

    TetsuoShima

    Atomic_Rift wrote:

    John Nunn lost to a kid.

    was his name Magnus Carlsen??

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1114

    Atomic_Rift

    TetsuoShima wrote:
    Atomic_Rift wrote:

    John Nunn lost to a kid.

    was his name Magnus Carlsen??

    No, LOL! Laughing

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1115

    Atomic_Rift

    Atomic_Rift wrote:
    TetsuoShima wrote:
    Atomic_Rift wrote:

    John Nunn lost to a kid.

    was his name Magnus Carlsen??

    No, LOL! 

    It was this guy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Howell_(chess_player)

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1116

    Atomic_Rift

    HotFlow wrote:
    Atomic_Rift wrote:

    John Nunn lost to a kid.


    Playing chess?

    Yes, and because of that most kids on chesskid.com thinks he's a terrible chess player! Frown

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1117

    psiphi1

    tetsuo shima,my apologies;the 17 move forced mate that was lost due to a move out of order was by  two(2) masters,not a 1300 vs. 1700 player. should have made that clear.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #1118

    psiphi1

    i mean a 1300 and             2700  layer,enough.


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