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Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?


  • 12 days ago · Quote · #1521

    SmyslovFan

    ClavierCavalier wrote:
    bacca2002 wrote:

    maybe the 1300 is a GM but only played 1 game on chess.com...

    This comment made me realize we haven't specified which rating system we're using.  We've all assumed FIDE, but, since it was never specified, we're using my inverse rating system where the lower the rating the better.  So, yes, a 1300 can beat a 2700+ player easily.  Now the question becomes:  Can a 2700+ beat a 1300 player?  :-p

    Many, many pages ago, it was stipulated that the ratings were stable, not provisional, the ratings were USCF or FIDE using standard time controls, that the game mattered to both players, that it was OTB, and an official rated game (NOT a simul). 

    Of course, 77 pages later, people tend to forget.

  • 12 days ago · Quote · #1522

    Ja3030

    Ziryab , see :« NA» at farsi mean NO , «NA» at GREEK MEAN YES !! just LOOK LILLE!deepest , you have chess board front you ,looking looking ,thinking , NOW WHAT? If NO CHANCE MAYBE MEAN MY MISTAKE! ....

  • 12 days ago · Quote · #1523

    Ja3030

    .....SOME THING IS THERE , WE DON,T HAVE NOTHING ! Remmber even if 1300 have no chance ! 2700 HAVE CHANCE TO MADE MISTAKE!! Think again......

  • 12 days ago · Quote · #1524

    Roeczak

    SmyslovFan wrote:
    ClavierCavalier wrote:
    bacca2002 wrote:

    maybe the 1300 is a GM but only played 1 game on chess.com...

    This comment made me realize we haven't specified which rating system we're using.  We've all assumed FIDE, but, since it was never specified, we're using my inverse rating system where the lower the rating the better.  So, yes, a 1300 can beat a 2700+ player easily.  Now the question becomes:  Can a 2700+ beat a 1300 player?  :-p

    Many, many pages ago, it was stipulated that the ratings were stable, not provisional, the ratings were USCF or FIDE using standard time controls, that the game mattered to both players, that it was OTB, and an official rated game (NOT a simul). 

    Of course, 77 pages later, people tend to forget.


    This happened at page 0, right?

  • 12 days ago · Quote · #1525

    Roeczak

    Ja3030 wrote:

    Ziryab , see :« NA» at farsi mean NO , «NA» at GREEK MEAN YES !! just LOOK LILLE!deepest , you have chess board front you ,looking looking ,thinking , NOW WHAT? If NO CHANCE MAYBE MEAN MY MISTAKE! ....

    yes at greek is Nai not Na

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1526

    Ziryab

    Ja3030 wrote:

    Ziryab , see :« NA» at farsi mean NO , «NA» at GREEK MEAN YES !! just LOOK LILLE!deepest , you have chess board front you ,looking looking ,thinking , NOW WHAT? If NO CHANCE MAYBE MEAN MY MISTAKE! ....

    There is no ambiguity in the Cherokee.

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1527

    chess_gg

    Ja3030 wrote:

    .....SOME THING IS THERE , WE DON,T HAVE NOTHING ! Remmber even if 1300 have no chance ! 2700 HAVE CHANCE TO MADE MISTAKE!! Think again......

    OK, I'm gonna think again...

    About the same chance as Tiger Woods missing a two-inch putt. No, make that a quarter-inch putt.

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1528

    ur-booksy

    A 1300 will never beat a 2700 in a million years.  I doubt a 1300 could beat a 2700 even with knight odds in a blindfold simul.

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1529

    Irjene

    I wouldn't go that far its possible for a 2700 to lose to a 1300 if the 2700 blunders

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1530

    Ziryab

    Irjene wrote:

    I wouldn't go that far its possible for a 2700 to lose to a 1300 if the 2700 blunders badly six or seven times.

    Of course, when a player is not under pressure, he or she blunders only if unskilled. 2700s blunder when they are under extreme pressure.

     

    (I had to finish your partial sentence)

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1531

    ur-booksy

    Irjene wrote:

    I wouldn't go that far its possible for a 2700 to lose to a 1300 if the 2700 blunders

    Which would never happen, because a 1300 player cannot put a 2700 player under sufficient pressure to induce a bad enough blunder. 

    Players who blunder badly enough for a 1300 to beat them, when not under pressure, do not reach grandmaster level, never mind 2700.

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1532

    Ubik42

    If course there is a chance a 1300 player can defeat 2700's. Just look at Ivanov.

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1533

    Ziryab

    Ubik42 wrote:

    If course there is a chance a 1300 player can defeat 2700's. Just look at Ivanov.

    Ivanov's method is certainly the only way. Even so, it is worth noting that he is a weak master (a long ways above 1300) and he beat some 2500s and 2600s, not, AFAIK, any 2700+ players.

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1534

    RCMorea

    Here is how I would propose to do it.  I play 1.e4 and wait for the GM to have a heart attack (but not die).  Though it's unlikely, it will eventually happen.  Then, he will lose on time while in the hospital.  If he were to die, it might be considered no game.  Plus, I'd feel bad.  I want to make it clear that the GM in this example makes a full recovery and lives many happy years, including seeing all his grandaughters' weddings.  But, I did get a game off him.  OK?  Other than that, no, I think there's no way.

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1535

    Ja3030

    WICH 1300 WE TALKING ABUT !Please just go put some $,s ! and play with NON RATED PLAYER!! at market st S.F , 5min,s you have time , and just 1 min !! UN RATED PLAYER , next see

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1536

    chess_gg

    Why the hysteria?

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1537

    Ja3030

    The point is SOME PEOPLE THINK IF THEY PORTACT 2700 , THEY ARE 2700!!! i am not here , HAVE GOOD 2700DREAM ! Ya Hagh.

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1538

    Ubik42

    The giraffe port monitoring is the last monkey position of extraneous little green curb feelers. This includes every edible portion of lost hex bolts that undergo surgery for lemon toothpicks.

  • 11 days ago · Quote · #1539

    Marcokim

    Dodger111 wrote:

    In a tournament I once saw a 2300 player lose to a 1400, the 2300 player  was 2 pieces up plus some pawns, then made a move without a second thought because he was so far ahead, and left himself open for a mate in 2.

    It was sad.

    This was in a club where we all knew each other and the 1400 player was really the suck at chess, his rating was inflated at that.....we all stood around in shock.

    I was rated 1800 USCF at the time, played the 1400 guy many games, and never lost one.

     

    OhhhhhhThe Humanity !

    Ok, you are rated 1180 Live Chess yet your USCF is 1800, a 2300 player was up a piece and 2 pawns, but blundered? Even if he blundered a queen I doubt he would lose being a piece and 2 pawns. You are obviously talking out of you nither regions. I have seen a visiting Turkish IM destroy our 1700, 1800 club players in a 4 game simul, and he wasn't even sweating.

    You are obviously just an attention seeking troll. If you were rated 1800 USCF you would easily be playing 1600+ live blitz even given that blitz is not for everyone... even then you would at least mix it up at 1600, 1700 or thereabouts.

  • 10 hours ago · Quote · #1540

    Roeczak

    FIDE rating 1496 (1534 as of july)

    rapid 1531

    chess.com live 1300

    just search my name on fide to see i am not lying

    someplayers really suck at blitz.


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