from playing to different chess sites, ive observe many things. some forms of cheating but this act though not actually a cheat is somewhat degrading. maybe to some its just circumstantial but i do not believe (in most cases) in coincidence.  some players from here and even on other sites avoids to move as much as possible when they are losing while when they are on winning position they move faster than the lightning. what are your comments about this attitude?

well its often easier to find good moves in good positions, so dont take as much time to find. And harder to find good moves in bad ones so taking more time.So that might explain it a little... 

I think that is totally true i have witnessed the same and of doing the same, its not that im trying to get any advantage or to bore the opposition to death. But when your backs against the wall and staring defeat (resignation is always had to swallow) you tend to be more hesitant about making a move as to not worsen your position.

Agreed - with #3, #2

I play much faster when I see Mate, While I have noticed I take a little longer

when my position is failing.

I find sometimes I put off moving in a losing game, because the more I look at it the more time I have to find a better move. Surely, there's nothing wrong with this?

That's why we have time limits.  What I see here is that people who play actually work, so we should not presume that they are trying to annoy their opponents; afterall work is more important.  Over the board games is a different situation: taking too much time (especially when there is no time control) is really annoying. 

How can anyone argue that looking for your best move in a bad position is unsportsmanlike? I think it's worse to demand someone make a fast bad move for your convenience.

Reservesmonkey wrote: How can anyone argue that looking for your best move in a bad position is unsportsmanlike? I think it's worse to demand someone make a fast bad move for your convenience.

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I agree. Making someone play at your speed is unsportsman like. Greyfox please don't tell me your one of those guy's who keeps putting hurry up in the note's box whilst your playing.  I can tell you, your soon be out of opponents. Chill.

 

I believe that there can be no punishment for people who take their time to make a move within the time limit. But I am sympathetic to people who are frustrated by "stallers." And there is a difference between people who stall and people who are just trying to make their best move.

 

For example, take an opponent who makes a few moves a day until finally reaching and endgame down a piece and 3 pawns and no chance for counterplay. Now all of a sudden he takes more than 2 days per move. There is no best move to be searching for, this is simply a delay tactic. But, those are the time controls I have signed up to play, so I will play them with a smile on my face (after all, I am winning). You can be sure, I would never play this opponent another time and that is good enough for me. 

MolotovRuss wrote: I find sometimes I put off moving in a losing game, because the more I look at it the more time I have to find a better move. Surely, there's nothing wrong with this?

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 on other cases this is true. but what im pointing is that they log in here play all games that they are confident they are winning and then log out. when the time that they are about to lose becoz of time, thats the time theyll give a move and repeat the same thing afterwards.

queenie wrote: Reservesmonkey wrote: How can anyone argue that looking for your best move in a bad position is unsportsmanlike? I think it's worse to demand someone make a fast bad move for your convenience.

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I agree. Making someone play at your speed is unsportsman like. Greyfox please don't tell me your one of those guy's who keeps putting hurry up in the note's box whilst your playing.  I can tell you, your soon be out of opponents. Chill.

 

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 i dont think you understand what i am pointing. i am not demanding for them to move fast. all im saying is that even though they are here, they are not moving as least a move and wait till theyre time nearly runs out before moving. and im not stating that to my own games either. its been my hobby to watch games of others here and notice that attitude to many weak players.

 

i explian this to be a matter of high pride. they cant accept that someone is going to beat them. 

Loomis wrote:

I believe that there can be no punishment for people who take their time to make a move within the time limit. But I am sympathetic to people who are frustrated by "stallers." And there is a difference between people who stall and people who are just trying to make their best move.

 

For example, take an opponent who makes a few moves a day until finally reaching and endgame down a piece and 3 pawns and no chance for counterplay. Now all of a sudden he takes more than 2 days per move. There is no best move to be searching for, this is simply a delay tactic. But, those are the time controls I have signed up to play, so I will play them with a smile on my face (after all, I am winning). You can be sure, I would never play this opponent another time and that is good enough for me. 

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 thanks god someone understand my point. thats exactly what i am relating to others here. thanks for your very good explaination there my friend.

I think this is more of a problem with live chess over the internet. (not chess.com's chess system). If there is no time limit people will just leave themselves on until the oponent gets frustrated and has to sign off. Ive heard people complain about this before

And there is a difference between people who stall and people who are just trying to make their best move.

 

Absolutely. In another thread I related the story of an opponent who played out King vs King + Queen against me as S-L-O-W-L-Y as possible, about 1min/move in a G/25 game. The endgame took longer than the middlegame! The best part was afterwards... he actually asked me to post-mortem the game with him.

likesforests wrote:

And there is a difference between people who stall and people who are just trying to make their best move.

 

Absolutely. In another thread I related the story of an opponent who played out King vs King + Queen against me as S-L-O-W-L-Y as possible, about 1min/move in a G/25 game. The endgame took longer than the middlegame! The best part was afterwards... he actually asked me to post-mortem the game with him.

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in post mortem you mean have the dead ready for viewing of grieving relatives? lolz! that's what post-mortem means in my profession.

Aye, he must have known what I was planning! In the chess world "post-mortem" can also mean reviewing a game after it's been played out.

ow i see. this is the first time ive heard of that so i asked you. its a sort of nalysis of an error right?

Can we still call it a post-mortem if the game is drawn?

Yawn!!!

Loomis wrote: Can we still call it a post-mortem if the game is drawn?

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 post mortem=after death. death of a game of chess,football,whatever. examination of the event-blow-by-blow if you will(boxing). Anyway,i dont know about the rest of you,but i work a full 40 hours a week(sometimes more)and chess is a hobby. chess.com(right now) is a turn based,time based format which you agreed to abide by when you signed on. There will always be malcontents and people who attempt to cheat(chess.com will catch you), but unfortunately this is a fact of life. As chess.com is a microcosm of the world, so too both the good and bad aspects of today's world will be represented here. I hope i represent the good aspect -what about you!?