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Just 4 away from surpassing Kasparov


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    Chess4001

    http://www.2700chess.com/ gives great up to date ratings of the top 40-50 ish players.

    It also shows that Carlsen has a whopping 2848 after beating Anand at the GS Masters Final tournament. 

    Interestingly enouguh, Kamsky now surpasses Naka by 1 place (11 to 12!) after Naka did poorly at the FIDE Grand prix. Kamsky's rating is above his by just aa tenth of a point!

    Caruana climbed up to the top 5.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    heinzie

    *stay tuned for the latest rating updates*

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    shepi13

    For it to count though, it has to be an official rating though right?

    If Carlsen is above 2851 on this live list, but goes back down before official ratings are published (I believe they are monthly), then he hasn't technically passed Kasparov. Am I correct?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    beardogjones

    Kamsky played well against Naka in US open but then lost his

    way in a better position rather disappointingly. He may need some

    psychological boosting to get to the next level. Naka's game is

    volatile but he often has excellent sense of the tactics in a position.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    sapientdust

    @shepi13, yes, the official FIDE rating list, not the unofficial live list, is what counts for records, but if Carlsen cared enough about not risking the record, he could just take a break for a few months the instant his live rating passes the record and wait for the next FIDE list to come out.

    @Powerlevel_9001, yeah, Caruana is extremely impressive. I think he'll pretty soon be among the top three, and the next few years will feature Carlsen at the top, with Aronian and Caruana jockeying back and forth for 2nd and 3rd, with these three being the only three 2800+ GMs for a while, and a sizable gap between them and the rest of the top 10.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    corpsporc

    sapientdust wrote:

    With [Carlsen,Caruana,Aronian] being the only three 2800+ GMs for a while, and a sizable gap between them and the rest of the top 10.

    I disagree, Kramnik has been sitting just below Aronian for a while, and if Anand performs again the way he did just a couple of years ago, he would be 2820+inflation.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    sapientdust

    @corpsporc, Yes, I might be wrong on "only three 2800+ GMs" for a while. Kramnik and maybe one or two others might break 2800 in the near future and stay there, but I feel more confident that Carlsen, Aronian and Caruana will be in their own private tier. 

    If Kramnik and a couple of other people manage to break 2800 and stay there, then 2850 will become the new 2800, and it'll just be Carlsen, Aronian, and Caruana there ;-).

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    konhidras

    The changing of the guards.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    Estragon

    sapientdust wrote:

    @shepi13, yes, the official FIDE rating list, not the unofficial live list, is what counts for records, but if Carlsen cared enough about not risking the record, he could just take a break for a few months the instant his live rating passes the record and wait for the next FIDE list to come out.

    @Powerlevel_9001, yeah, Caruana is extremely impressive. I think he'll pretty soon be among the top three, and the next few years will feature Carlsen at the top, with Aronian and Caruana jockeying back and forth for 2nd and 3rd, with these three being the only three 2800+ GMs for a while, and a sizable gap between them and the rest of the top 10.

    Carlsen would find it difficult to sit on a rating by not playing.  He is committed to many events as much as a year ahead of time, and of course the WC cycle (assuming he's taught FIDE he won't tolerate mid-cycle changes this time).  To drop out of those would damage his value to organizers. 

    But Carlsen doesn't seem to give a rat's patootie about any of that stuff.  He plays chess because it interests him. By happy coincidence, he is good enough to make a fine living doing what he loves.  Carlsen will continue to play actively because that is who he is and what he does, not because he cares about Kasparov's record which he is virtually certain to smash soon anyway.

     

    Caruana does seem to be the next member of the 2800 club, but Radjabov is not so far behind.  Other younger players we never suspected will surge forward, too, and Karjakin is hardly finished improving despite his poor result in the Grand Slam.  Anand and Topalov retain the potential to regain the 2800 level, and Kramnik is only a fraction below it (but Vladimir has indicated he will retire when he feels it is time, hinting that will not be too many more years at the most).

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    cagature

    I feel like Nakamura could also hit 2800, but he also could fall down to 2750 and stay there too. He's quite unpredictable.

    Karjakin and Radjabov aren't that old either and will likely be in the top 10 for a long time.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    konhidras

    I hope these two guys meet in a set match. Nakamura vs Carlsen. I hope nakamura wins.


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