Kasparov's Anger

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14th March 2009, 09:59pm
#61
by LoneWolfEburg
Ekaterinburg Russia
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 298

" It was pointed out that he had not played any Russians but rather a Latvian(Tal)"

Tal was a Latvian Jew.

16th March 2009, 10:17am
#62
by JetSetter
United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 195
atomichicken wrote:
JetSetter wrote:
Alex_Kovach wrote:

Because (pay attention now) Gary is bad bad man and Judit is a sweet and wonderful Hungarian Genius. I'm so glad that I could straighten that out for you...


Exhibit A on why chess.com needs an "Add to Ignore List" feature...


So you don't take too kindly to light hearted comments then..


Light hearted and obnoxious are different. Kovach's response would be light hearted w/o the parentheticals and the second sentence. His follow on response a few posts up seals the deal for me. But it's not a big deal really, he could be a nice guy offline, so it's all good. I find it amusing (e.g. light hearted) that this is even a sub-thread of Kasparov's Anger, and I'll forget all about it when I click "submit your comment."

It's clear the thread is dying down. It's hard to castigate a guy for a quote taken over 15 years ago when he's left professional chess to focus on his political efforts. Do you believe GK still holds this opinion? Can't say that I care if he does or not...it has no effect on the chess world in 2009...

16th March 2009, 11:26am
#63
by HotFlow
KL, Malaysia Malaysia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2251

So has she gone on to prove him wrong? 

17th March 2009, 12:15am
#64
by phishcake5
California United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 793
HotFlow wrote:

So has she gone on to prove him wrong? 


 He was proved wrong by common sense before the words came out of his mouth Gary just didn't stop to listen.

19th March 2009, 01:31pm
#65
by J_adoubious
Battle Creek United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 77
LoneWolfEburg wrote:

" It was pointed out that he had not played any Russians but rather a Latvian(Tal)"

Tal was a Latvian Jew.


You have point to make here?  Is Jew still a separate nationality, in your mind, wherever it occurs?  That Tal was a Jew is not surprising since Jews seem to be "over-represented" in most intellectual endeavors and in the Baltic states, that along with most of the western Russian (later Soviet) empire, were part of the pale of settlement in which Jews were confined under the Czars, apparently to make sure that the Jews got the the first of it and the worst of it should some western power come a-invading again as Napoleon did, and the Germans would do twice later.  For that matter, MOST of the great Soviet players from 1948-on were Jews, in whole or part, and the rest (e.g. Keres, Petrosian) were not Russians, much to the embarrassment of the Kremlin.  This would seem to account for the chicanery involved in promoting Anatoly Karpov, the first credible, ostensibly non-Jewish, and Russian contender that the Soviet system would ever produce.

You also forgot to mention that Geller was a Ukrainian Jew.

19th March 2009, 01:55pm
#66
by mattattack99
Ann Arbor United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 1427
Minzz0 wrote:

Kasparov is the best period, whatever he says goes.


I agree. Even though Kasparov can go over the top sometimes, he is a good guy.

27th March 2009, 08:27pm
#67
by Elysium
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 2

kasparov sounds like my kind of guy :<

28th March 2009, 03:44am
#68
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 4068
J_adoubious wrote:
kenmack wrote:

Kasparov is a russian blowhard.  Pay no attention to his words, they are meaningless.


First off, he is not a RUSSIAN blowhard(1).  If anything he is an Armenian blowhard by his mother, and comes from Azerbaijan not Russia.  Second, as a product of the Soviet system the pot is definitely calling a kettle black regarding who might be described as a trained animal.  Third, it is fairly obvious, to me at least, that no mere trained dog ever becomes one of the world's top 10 players or the youngest Grandmaster in history (at the time) and by the usual norm process, I believe, not by the shortcut of honorary award as was the case when Fischer achieved that feat, becoming an IM by virtue of appearing at Potoroz and GM by virtue of qualifying in the top 6 for the next event, Bled 1959.   Fourth, Judith Polgar has a highly active tactical style that can hardly be described as mechanical or rote, and like Tal (and Kasparov for that matter) she can execute it successfully against the best players in the world.  So, if he said this "for the record" and not in some offhand situation better ignored, he spoke both obnoxiously and stupidly.  We can speculate as to his motivation, chauvinism, envy, etc but whatever, the great man was clearly full of caviar well past its prime on this topic.

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(1) Reminds me of the Fischer story from Bled 1961 when he announced his intention to beat the four Russians (i.e. Soviets) present.  It was pointed out that he had not played any Russians but rather a Latvian(Tal), Estonian(Keres), Armenian(Petrosian) and a Ukrainian (Geller) when he replied "You're all Russians to me!".  Fischer nearly succeeded with 3.5 out of 4 (Keres drew) but Tal won the event by a full point over second place and undefeated Fischer by virtue of pounding the lower half of the chart (9.5/10 vs 7/10) even harder than Fischer had pounded the upper half (6.5/9 vs  5/9 including Tal's only loss). (see http://www.rookhouse.com/events/bled1961.html)


 Actually, I believe Fischer became an IM when he won the US closed championship for the first time in 1957 at age 14.

28th March 2009, 04:59am
#69
by gabrielconroy
London United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 1519

cunny_funt:  Take a look at some of Kramnik's earlier games - he followed a very strong, tactically imaginative style that showcases his talent. Only relatively recently has he played in this extremely strategical, positional manner. Check out this game against Leko from the 2001 Linares:

 

28th March 2009, 11:31pm
#70
by KingPan
Colombo Sri Lanka
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 90

Ive read many articles of Kasparov being sexist-this article is like the 4th article on kasparovs sexist behaviour ive read about.

28th March 2009, 11:50pm
#71
by ARIMNISTOS
ATHENS Greece
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 23

WELL,HE SHOULDNT SAY THESE WORDS.AFTER ALL HE IS ALSO A TRAINED DOG.IN POLITICS.TRAINED BY GEORGE SOROS AND THE JEWS.

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