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21st January 2009, 06:55pm
#1
by Momadu
San Francisco United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 117

Has anyone really been pushed out of a group? I was actually actively playing, too.

In my ignorance, I chose to "vote" to resign a game where we were many points behind. Seemed appropriate given basic chess etiquette. To my amazement the admin, called me out saying "we do not resign."

Really, I thought this was vote chess.. Apparently not..I was told the admins get to make those decisions? Again..how does this mean vote chess? Then the kicked me out?

Does anyone agree? Or disagree..

21st January 2009, 07:02pm
#2
by dbull50
Texas United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 9

Really? Wow cannot believe they would kick you out for resigning. Its only right in a situation like that. I agree with you, bad admin decision.

21st January 2009, 07:06pm
#3
by onosson
Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 728

That doesn't seem right... but then, in most democracies, some are more equal than others!

21st January 2009, 07:11pm
#4
by nwav
Lower Hutt New Zealand
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 2781

Which group?

21st January 2009, 07:28pm
#5
by Spiffe
Orlando, FL United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 1938

If that's the whole story, then they did you a favor... it's not worth being part of a group that runs itself like that.

Seems kind of an odd story, though... how did they know you voted to resign?  Is there a way to see who voted for what in Vote Chess?

21st January 2009, 07:30pm
#6
by Momadu
San Francisco United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 117
Spiffe wrote:

If that's the whole story, then they did you a favor... it's not worth being part of a group that runs itself like that.

Seems kind of an odd story, though... how did they know you voted to resign?  Is there a way to see who voted for what in Vote Chess?


Clearly the admins can. I do not think the others can though. To be fair..I "was warned." When I again submitted a resign vote..all done.

21st January 2009, 07:39pm
#7
by Webhead
Mississippi United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 507

Don't let it bother you.  There are lots of kiddies and overgrown kiddies that are members here.  It's something you have to live with at Chess.com.

21st January 2009, 07:39pm
#8
by fzweb
My home Australia
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 1140

Was it the Chess Spartans you were kicked out of? If it was, well the reason is quite self-explanatory...

21st January 2009, 07:47pm
#9
by bart225
kelowna bc Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 613

Sounds stupid to me  , join an other group .

21st January 2009, 07:52pm
#10
by D_Blackwell
United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 178

Without knowing more about the specifics, its hard to know if you were wronged.  If you had a vote, then you had the right to vote your conscience.  If the admins make the decisions and the 'vote' is just a sham, then you are probably better off gone.  Find a better group.  It is one thing for admins to have final say on certain matters (including votes if that is the rules of thier group) and not necessarily inappropriate, but it should be an open process.  There are tons of groups.  They did you a favor screwing you over.  You can move on to a better group.

21st January 2009, 08:05pm
#11
by Popinjay
North Carolina United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 137

I never get involved in chess groups. It’s just like high school. The only kind of group I like I’m afraid we can’t discuss in this forum.

21st January 2009, 08:17pm
#12
by oilybog
Spring Valley Lake United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 260

Weird.... it is a rational vote in certain situations to vote to "offer" a resign. Would it happen automatically? Or would the other team have to accept the resignation offer?

Sounds like good chess to me.

21st January 2009, 08:34pm
#13
by sebas4life
utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 333
Popinjay wrote:

I never get involved in chess groups. It’s just like high school. The only kind of group I like I’m afraid we can’t discuss in this forum.


DUDE!!!!!

21st January 2009, 08:38pm
#14
by BasicLvrCH8r
Kansas United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1605
onosson wrote:

That doesn't seem right... but then, in most democracies, some are more equal than others!


That was a communism from the moment that Jones was expelled. It then grew into a dictatorship, and regressed to the original state.

22nd January 2009, 03:45am
#15
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 8363

Can I recommend the more mature group discussed here ... 

How about: The Group That Isn't   ?

We could be the first (of many) ungroups. That way, Dr_Doc_MD wouldn't need to persuade anyone to create us, for we would already exist by virtue of not having been created.

This group could potentially become the biggest group on chess.com. Whenever anyone asks: can I join your group? The smug answer would be: you are already a member!

Russell's Paradox?, anyone?

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/another-group-to-destroy-chesscom-with?page=3

22nd January 2009, 04:28am
#16
by Gert-Jan
Groningen Netherlands
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1595

I don't know which group you are talking about but sometimes the group leaders are leading as a dictator. I was kicked out of the dream team because I participated in a puzzle contest from a non-group  member.

I live in The Netherlands and I am used to freedom so I participate in everything I like.(excluding illegal activities offcourse)

22nd January 2009, 05:46am
#17
by aristeidis9
Thessaloniki Greece
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 3348

You just chose the wrong group..You are free now to make a new start!

22nd January 2009, 05:50am
#18
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

Lol.

22nd January 2009, 05:56am
#19
by NM Reb
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 7857
Momadu wrote:

 

Has anyone really been pushed out of a group? I was actually actively playing, too.

In my ignorance, I chose to "vote" to resign a game where we were many points behind. Seemed appropriate given basic chess etiquette. To my amazement the admin, called me out saying "we do not resign."

Really, I thought this was vote chess.. Apparently not..I was told the admins get to make those decisions? Again..how does this mean vote chess? Then the kicked me out?

Does anyone agree? Or disagree..


22nd January 2009, 05:57am
#20
by NM Reb
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 7857

This is one of several reasons I dont participate in vote chess.

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