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srikanth_narahari
kco wrote:
srikanth_narahari wrote:

surprise, surprise, surprise !  

It is April. :)

icyfire77
srikanth_narahari wrote:
icyfire77 wrote:

do you like knights better or bishops better? which should be 3.5 to you? for me it is bishop. I always trade knights for bishops.

I think both should be 1: a knight is one knight, and a bishop is one bishop. My friend, a chess piece is more than a number. The value of a piece is in what it can do.

I meant points. 1=a pawn. Do you mean if I trade a bishop/knight for a pawn, it is an equal exchange?

srikanth_narahari
icyfire77 wrote:
srikanth_narahari wrote:
icyfire77 wrote:

do you like knights better or bishops better? which should be 3.5 to you? for me it is bishop. I always trade knights for bishops.

I think both should be 1: a knight is one knight, and a bishop is one bishop. My friend, a chess piece is more than a number. The value of a piece is in what it can do.

I meant points. 1=a pawn. Do you mean if I trade a bishop/knight for a pawn, it is an equal exchange?

Not necessarily. Although you meant points, I meant that pieces are not numerically comparable.

waffllemaster
srikanth_narahari wrote:
icyfire77 wrote:
srikanth_narahari wrote:
icyfire77 wrote:

do you like knights better or bishops better? which should be 3.5 to you? for me it is bishop. I always trade knights for bishops.

I think both should be 1: a knight is one knight, and a bishop is one bishop. My friend, a chess piece is more than a number. The value of a piece is in what it can do.

I meant points. 1=a pawn. Do you mean if I trade a bishop/knight for a pawn, it is an equal exchange?

Not necessarily. Although you meant points, I meant that pieces are not numerically comparable.

Thankfully though they are alphabetically comparable.  I think this is how chess engines work.  Why else have built in databases of dictionaries?

srikanth_narahari
waffllemaster wrote:
srikanth_narahari wrote:
icyfire77 wrote:
srikanth_narahari wrote:
icyfire77 wrote:

do you like knights better or bishops better? which should be 3.5 to you? for me it is bishop. I always trade knights for bishops.

I think both should be 1: a knight is one knight, and a bishop is one bishop. My friend, a chess piece is more than a number. The value of a piece is in what it can do.

I meant points. 1=a pawn. Do you mean if I trade a bishop/knight for a pawn, it is an equal exchange?

Not necessarily. Although you meant points, I meant that pieces are not numerically comparable.

Thankfully though they are alphabetically comparable.  I think this is how chess engines work.  Why else have built in databases of dictionaries?

Spot on. Chess engines are like human beings in that they operate on knowledge, experience, analysis, intuition, understanding, wisdom, psychology, and mood. That's why they rely on dictionaries. In contrast, human players are diligent number-crunchers that are programmed by chess engines. This is why we need opening books, game databases, and endgame tablebases so badly.

P.S. Chess engines have families to feed; humans don't.

icyfire77
guys, this is getting a bit off topic.
srikanth_narahari
icyfire77 wrote:
guys, this is getting a bit off topic.

Agreed. I'm outta here. :P

icyfire77
BorgQueen wrote:

Both posts 31 and 32 are, in fact, off topic. 

As is this one.

guys, can we make this on topic again and talk more about what this forum was made for?

chessgdt
kco wrote:

seriously.....

Trapper4

Double knights can be extremely annoying. Double bishops could be extremely powerful. An outposted knight can look awesome and looks plain powerful. An outposted bishop is annoying.

lol

blueemu

I have only a handful of rules regarding Knights and Bishops.

You can hear a Knight coming... thud thud thud thud ... but not a Bishop.

Knights should be moved forward, but you can use a Bishop sideways.

red-lady

When you see the words knight and bishop in the same sentence... You feel like there is nothing more to say, right? Frown

pdve

a well posted knight on square of opposite color to the bishop can beat a bishop. a bishop with open diagnols with pawns on both sides of the board can beat a knight and so on. there is no clear answer.

cleocamy

I'm kinda new to blitz chess. I've noticed that people go out of their way to exchange bishops for knights. Even if it means weakening their position. I almost never see it go the other way around. Is there some innate advantage to having a knight in blitz games? If not why so many trades?

macer75
srikanth_narahari wrote:
goldendog wrote:

a knight can beat a bishop anytime. there looser's.

 
I see, winner.

In that position the knight does beat the bishop. After the bishop captures the queen, the knight then captures the bishop.