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This is not the play i expected of him he is getting his but kicked i mean he lost his right to castle he is in lots of trouble! what do you think is going on
Maybe not concentrating :/ He can turn the game around...I hope
oh yeah he has it lost for sure i am kinda dissapointed i wanted him to win the series i never seen him play before
idk it just seems to me he is not playing to his level
Oh hell yeah kramnik he sucks i could beat him easy after 6 or 8 drinks
i would need one large yegger bomb lol but no they started an hour late so i didnt so i wouldnt know
i cant watch because my schools browsers sucks.. can anyone post a diagram of the current position or the game thus far
Kramnik will never beat Aronian again. Guaranteed!!!!!!!!!!!!
i hope kramnik loses
Another berlin another draw
Is the Berlin even worse than the Petroff?
Why does a 2800 player play so listlessly with Black and insult his talent in this way??
Kramnik is a great endgame player. Why should he not play an opening that maximizes his skill advantages and creates a situation where he is playing to either win or draw and his opponent is playing to draw or lose?
I just looked in MegaBase 2012:
Looking at only Berlin Games, Kramnik scores 51.6%.
Looking at all other games with Kramnik as black starting 1. e4, Kramnik scores 51.2%
While some people might find the Berlin boring, I have to wonder given Kramnik's rather good performance history with the defense if that says more about their ability to appreciate endgames than about the opening's qualities.
You still miss the point -- he scores better (by probably a statistically insignificant margin, but still better) using the Berlin than using all other responses to 1. e4 combined.
Your contention is he should shelve an effective weapon because why?
Kramnik has been bulletproof with Black and just won a great game with White. What's the problem?
When you are Black against the #2 player in the world, third highest rated of all time, "boring" is pretty darned good.
both Kramnik and Aronian are showing their genius in this match, probably feeling freer because there is no title or qualification at stake, the match is doing exactly what both hoped - honing their skills before the Candidates' matches coming up.
We should remember that never before in chess history have two 2800+ players faced off in a match! This is history, even as a "training" match - the World Championship will be contested next month between two players rated lower than these two!
Appreciate what you are witnessing - something that might not have happened, a historic event.
If anyone thinks that playing the Berlin is just a way of getting an easy draw, they're delusional. The Berlin endgame is complicated and filled with pitfalls and it requires great skill from both players.
Look I get that it is effective, I am not disputing that. It just feels a bit cynical to me that's all.
I wish more games could be like the magnificent third game!
The irony being, of course, that the reputation of the Scotch Four Knights is pretty far removed from "dazzling" itself.
RIght! What could be more tame and plodding?
On the one hand, we could say, "Good on Aronian! Taking an otherwise stodgy choice by white and turning it on its ear by choosing the road less traveled (Bc5 instead of Bb4), and creating fascinating imbalance by trading his queen for a variety of minor pieces!"
On the other hand, isn't that exactly the point? When you're as mind-bendingly rock-solid and unshakeable as Kramnik, isn't it in your best interests to tame, bore, and plod the hell out of your opponents, hoping they'll try to make something out of nothing that so you can gain the upper hand?
We may see an endless succession of Petrosian-esque drawing chances. Opponents probably see a brick wall. And they've got to decide whether to stare at it for the rest of their lives, or attempt to run through it. When they attempt to run through it, it may be more exciting for the spectators, but the wall's record is pretty good.
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