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Live Chess: Beating the Computer


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    bugswattr

    Computers are known for a few traits that can be exploited.

    1. They are incredibly materialistic:

    If you can use a gambit or a clever sacrifice the computer will likely take unless there is an obvious repercussion

    2. Computers play in a logical manner

    The computer will not play for position, rather it will attack specific pieces and will attack your king. Even the best of computers have no concept of position.

    3. Be careful: don't make mistakes, the computer will see them. Take that extra second or two to ensure that you haven't made a ?, ?! or ??

    Here is an example of one of my games beating the computer. Please post your games against the Medium and Hard computers so we can all analyze them :).

     

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    Musikamole

    Well played game. I tried, but couldn't figure out how to set up a live rated game against the computer. I see others in the window playing against it, but I don't know how they set up the game.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    bugswattr

    The computer just sits there and waits for a challenge, you simply have to be the first to click.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    bastiaan

    good game, but Nc5 on turn 16?? that's pretty stupid for a 1700+ computer

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    bugswattr

    the 1700 just means that it keeps beating ppl that mess up. And like i said, it has no positional theory, backwards moves make more sense than gaining momentum, he doesn't like to be chased around ;)

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #6

    titocane

    Which computer program was this and from which company? And to followup--have you played against the Fritz series of computer progams, i.e Fritz 6, Fritz 11(Rybka) or Fritz 12(Shredder)?.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #7

    titocane

    Here are 4 brain busters C to C, I would like to know what you would have done differently:

    Chessmater GM Edition {Steintz} Goes Bust in 48!
    [White "Steinitz"]
    [Black "Fritz 6"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    King's Gambit Accepted

    1. e4 e5 
    2. f4 exf4 
    3. Nf3 g5 
    4. h4 g4 
    5. Ne5 h5 
    6. Bc4 Nh6 
    7. d4 d6 
    8. Nd3 f3 
    9. gxf3 Be7 
    10. Be3 Bxh4+ 
    11. Kd2 Nc6 
    12. Nc3 Na5 
    13. Bb3 c6 
    14. Qg1 Ng8 
    15. Qh2 Bg5 
    16. f4 Bf6 
    17. f5 Nxb3+ 
    18. axb3 h4 
    19. Qg2 g3 
    20. Rhf1 Nh6 
    21. Qf3 Bg5 
    22. Rfe1 Qf6 
    23. d5 Bxe3+ 
    24. Kxe3 Qg5+ 
    25. Ke2 Ng4 
    26. Red1 Rg8 
    27. dxc6 bxc6 
    28. b4 d5 
    29. exd5 Bxf5 
    30. Rf1 Bg6 
    31. dxc6 Nh2 
    32. Qf4 Nxf1 
    33. Qxg5 Bxd3+ 
    34. cxd3 Rxg5 
    35. Kxf1 O-O-O 
    36. Rxa7 h3 
    37. Ne2 g2+ 
    38. Kg1 Re5 
    39. Kh2 Rxe2 
    40. Ra1 Rf2 
    41. Kxh3 Rh8+ 
    42. Kg3 Rf6 
    43. Kg4 Rf1 
    44. Ra8+ Kc7 
    45. Ra7+ Kd6 
    46. Rd7+ Kxc6 
    47. b5+ Kxd7 
    48. b6 g1=R# 
    0-1

    Chessmater GM Edition [Evans L.] Cracks Under the Strain
    [White "Evans"]
    [Black "Fritz 6"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    Dutch Reversed

    1. f4 d5 
    2. e3 Bf5 
    3. Nf3 e6 
    4. Be2 Nc6 
    5. O-O Qf6 
    6. Nc3 O-O-O 
    7. d3 Nh6 
    8. a3 Kb8 
    9. d4 Ka8 
    10. Bd2 Rg8 
    11. Bb5 Ne7 
    12. Ne5 Ng6 
    13. Be2 c6 
    14. Rc1 Nxe5 
    15. fxe5 Qe7 
    16. Be1 Bg6 
    17. Qd2 Nf5 
    18. g4 Nh6 
    19. h4 f5 
    20. g5 Ng4 
    21. Bg3 Bh5 
    22. Bf3 h6 
    23. Bf4 Qe8 
    24. Bg2 Be7 
    25. Na4 Qg6 
    26. Nc5 Bxc5 
    27. dxc5 Rh8 
    28. Qd4 Rb8 
    29. c4 Qh7 
    30. b4 hxg5 
    31. Bxg5 Nh6 
    32. cxd5 exd5 
    33. b5 Qg8 
    34. b6 a6 
    35. Bxh6 gxh6 
    36. Rxf5 Bg6 
    37. Rf2 Be4 
    38. Kf1 Qg4 
    39. Bxe4 dxe4 
    40. Rf4 Qh3+ 
    41. Ke1 Qg3+ 
    42. Ke2 Qg2+ 
    43. Rf2 Qg4+ 
    44. Ke1 Rhd8 
    45. Qb2 Rd3 
    46. Qe2 Qg1+ 
    47. Rf1 Qg3+ 
    48. Qf2 Rxe3+ 
    49. Kd2 Rd8+ 
    50. Kc2 Rc3+ 
    51. Kb2 Rb3+ 
    52. Ka2 Rxa3+ 
    53. Kb1 Qd3+ 
    54. Qc2 Qb5+ 
    55. Qb2 Rb3 
    56. Qxb3 Qxb3+ 
    57. Ka1 e3 
    58. e6 Qxe6 
    59. Rcd1 Re8 
    60. Rc1 e2 
    61. Rg1 Rd8 
    62. Kb2 Rd2+ 
    63. Rc2 Qe5+ 
    64. Kb3 Qd5+ 
    65. Kb2 Qd4+ 
    66. Kb1 Qxg1+ 
    67. Kb2 Qd4+ 
    68. Kb3 Rd3+ 
    69. Ka2 Qa4+ 
    70. Kb1 Rd1+ 
    71. Kb2 Qb4+ 
    72. Ka2 e1=Q 
    73. Rc1 Rd2+ 
    74. Rc2 Qeb1# 
     0-1

    Chessmater GM Edition [Evans L.] This one takes the cake!!
    [White "Evans"]
    [Black "Fritz 6"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    [Event ""]
    Petroff's Defence

      1. e4             e5           
      2. Nf3            Nf6          
      3. Nxe5           d6           
      4. Nf3            Nxe4         
      5. c4             Be7          
      6. d4             d5           
      7. Bd3            Bb4+         
      8. Kf1            O-O          
      9. Qb3            a5           
     10. cxd5           Nf6          
     11. a3             Bd6          
     12. Nc3            Nbd7         
     13. Bg5            h6           
     14. Bh4            Re8          
     15. Bb5            g5           
     16. Nxg5           hxg5         
     17. Bxg5           Qe7          
     18. Qd1            b6           
     19. Kg1            Kg7          
     20. h4             Qf8          
     21. Bc6            Rb8          
     22. Qf3            Qh8          
     23. h5             Kf8          
     24. Rh4            Ba6          
     25. Qf5            Re7          
     26. h6             Rbe8         
     27. Bd2            Qh7          
     28. Qxh7           Nxh7         
     29. b3             Kg8          
     30. Rh3            Nhf6         
     31. Rf3            Kh7          
     32. a4             Bc8          
     33. Rc1            Ba3          
     34. Rf1            Ba6          
     35. Rb1            Bb4          
     36. Rc1            Bc8          
     37. Bb5            Bxc3         
     38. Rcxc3          Nxd5         
     39. Rc1            Rg8          
     40. Bd3+           Kh8          
     41. Rf5            N7f6         
     42. Rg5            Rge8         
     43. f3             Be6          
     44. Bb5            Rd8          
     45. Re5            Nd7          
     46. Ree1           Nf8          
     47. g3             Ng6          
     48. Bd3            Kh7          
     49. Bg5            f6           
     50. Bd2            Rd6          
     51. Bb1            Rf7          
     52. Rc2            Bf5          
     53. Rxc7           Nxc7         
     54. Bxf5           Rxd4         
     55. Be3            Rb4          
     56. Rb1            Nd5          
     57. Bd2            Rd4          
     58. Rb2            Ne7          
     59. Be6            Rf8          
     60. Kg2            Rd6          
     61. Bh3            Re8          
     62. Kf2            Ne5          
     63. Ra2            Kg6          
     64. Rc2            Red8         
     65. Be3            Nd5          
     66. Bd2            Nb4          
     67. Bxb4           Nd3+         
     68. Kg1            Nxb4         
     69. Rf2            Kxh6         
     70. Bf1            Rd1          
     71. Rh2+           Kg5          
     72. Rf2            Nd3          
     73. Re2            f5           
     74. Re6            f4           
     75. g4             Rc8          
     76. Rd6            Rcc1         
     77. Rd5+           Kf6          
     78. Rd6+           Ke5          
     79. Kg2            Ne1+         
     80. Kh3            Rxd6         
     81. g5             Rc8          
     82. Kg4            Rh8          
     83. Bc4            Nc2          
     84. b4             Ne3#         
     0-1


    Chessmater GM Edition [White "Seirawan"]Now this really takes the cake!!
    [Black "Fritz 6"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    Dutch Reversed
      1. f4             d5           
      2. e3             Nf6          
      3. Nf3            Bg4          
      4. Be2            c6           
      5. O-O            e6           
      6. b3             Bd6          
      7. Bb2            O-O          
      8. Nc3            Bxf3         
      9. Bxf3           Re8          
     10. Qe1            e5           
     11. f5             Na6          
     12. Qh4            Nc5          
     13. Rad1           d4           
     14. exd4           exd4         
     15. Nb1            d3           
     16. Bxf6           Qxf6         
     17. Qxf6           gxf6         
     18. c3             Nd7          
     19. Bh5            Re4          
     20. g3             Rae8         
     21. c4             Kg7          
     22. Nc3            R4e7         
     23. Kh1            Kh6          
     24. Bg4            Kg5          
     25. Bf3            h5           
     26. Rc1            Bc5          
     27. h3             Bd6          
     28. Kg2            h4           
     29. g4             Bf4          
     30. Rcd1           Bg3          
     31. Rh1            Bd6          
     32. Rc1            a6           
     33. Rhf1           a5           
     34. Rcd1           Bc5          
     35. Kh1            Bb4          
     36. Rc1            Nc5          
     37. Kg2            Na6          
     38. Kg1            Bc5+         
     39. Kh1            Ba3          
     40. Rcd1           Bb2          
     41. Na4            Bd4          
     42. Nc3            Nb4          
     43. a4             Re2          
     44. Nxe2           dxe2         
     45. Bxe2           Rxe2         
     46. Rde1           Re5          
     47. Rxe5           fxe5         
     48. Kg2            Nd3          
     49. Kf3            Nc5          
     50. Rb1            e4+          
     51. Kg2            Nd3          
     52. Kh1            Bf2          
     53. Kg2            Be1          
     54. Kf1            Bxd2         
     55. Ke2            Bc1          
     56. Kd1            Kf4          
     57. Ke2            f6           
     58. b4             axb4         
     59. Kd1            Kg3          
     60. Rxc1           Nxc1         
     61. g5             e3           
     62. gxf6           e2+          
     63. Ke1            Kf3          
     64. Kd2            Nb3+         
     65. Ke1            Ke3          
     66. f7             Nd4          
     67. a5             Nf3#         
     0-1

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #8

    bugswattr

    If you look at the title of the thread it says "live chess...." This isn't an instruction manual on how to defeat Deep Blue. Although, the part about machines being incredibly materialistic came in handy for Kaspy. He sacrificed a pawn and deep blue made a MISTAKE. Unfortunately our human hero failed to recognize the mistake and lost instead of drew.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #9

    vistascan

    titocane wrote:

    Here are 4 brain busters C to C, I would like to know what you would have done differently:

    Chessmater GM Edition {Steintz} Goes Bust in 48!
    [White "Steinitz"]
    [Black "Fritz 6"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    King's Gambit Accepted

    1. e4 e5 
    2. f4 exf4 
    3. Nf3 g5 
    4. h4 g4 
    5. Ne5 h5 
    6. Bc4 Nh6 
    7. d4 d6 
    8. Nd3 f3 
    9. gxf3 Be7 
    10. Be3 Bxh4+ 
    11. Kd2 Nc6 
    12. Nc3 Na5 
    13. Bb3 c6 
    14. Qg1 Ng8 
    15. Qh2 Bg5 
    16. f4 Bf6 
    17. f5 Nxb3+ 
    18. axb3 h4 
    19. Qg2 g3 
    20. Rhf1 Nh6 
    21. Qf3 Bg5 
    22. Rfe1 Qf6 
    23. d5 Bxe3+ 
    24. Kxe3 Qg5+ 
    25. Ke2 Ng4 
    26. Red1 Rg8 
    27. dxc6 bxc6 
    28. b4 d5 
    29. exd5 Bxf5 
    30. Rf1 Bg6 
    31. dxc6 Nh2 
    32. Qf4 Nxf1 
    33. Qxg5 Bxd3+ 
    34. cxd3 Rxg5 
    35. Kxf1 O-O-O 
    36. Rxa7 h3 
    37. Ne2 g2+ 
    38. Kg1 Re5 
    39. Kh2 Rxe2 
    40. Ra1 Rf2 
    41. Kxh3 Rh8+ 
    42. Kg3 Rf6 
    43. Kg4 Rf1 
    44. Ra8+ Kc7 
    45. Ra7+ Kd6 
    46. Rd7+ Kxc6 
    47. b5+ Kxd7 
    48. b6 g1=R# 
    0-1

    Chessmater GM Edition [Evans L.] Cracks Under the Strain
    [White "Evans"]
    [Black "Fritz 6"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    Dutch Reversed

    1. f4 d5 
    2. e3 Bf5 
    3. Nf3 e6 
    4. Be2 Nc6 
    5. O-O Qf6 
    6. Nc3 O-O-O 
    7. d3 Nh6 
    8. a3 Kb8 
    9. d4 Ka8 
    10. Bd2 Rg8 
    11. Bb5 Ne7 
    12. Ne5 Ng6 
    13. Be2 c6 
    14. Rc1 Nxe5 
    15. fxe5 Qe7 
    16. Be1 Bg6 
    17. Qd2 Nf5 
    18. g4 Nh6 
    19. h4 f5 
    20. g5 Ng4 
    21. Bg3 Bh5 
    22. Bf3 h6 
    23. Bf4 Qe8 
    24. Bg2 Be7 
    25. Na4 Qg6 
    26. Nc5 Bxc5 
    27. dxc5 Rh8 
    28. Qd4 Rb8 
    29. c4 Qh7 
    30. b4 hxg5 
    31. Bxg5 Nh6 
    32. cxd5 exd5 
    33. b5 Qg8 
    34. b6 a6 
    35. Bxh6 gxh6 
    36. Rxf5 Bg6 
    37. Rf2 Be4 
    38. Kf1 Qg4 
    39. Bxe4 dxe4 
    40. Rf4 Qh3+ 
    41. Ke1 Qg3+ 
    42. Ke2 Qg2+ 
    43. Rf2 Qg4+ 
    44. Ke1 Rhd8 
    45. Qb2 Rd3 
    46. Qe2 Qg1+ 
    47. Rf1 Qg3+ 
    48. Qf2 Rxe3+ 
    49. Kd2 Rd8+ 
    50. Kc2 Rc3+ 
    51. Kb2 Rb3+ 
    52. Ka2 Rxa3+ 
    53. Kb1 Qd3+ 
    54. Qc2 Qb5+ 
    55. Qb2 Rb3 
    56. Qxb3 Qxb3+ 
    57. Ka1 e3 
    58. e6 Qxe6 
    59. Rcd1 Re8 
    60. Rc1 e2 
    61. Rg1 Rd8 
    62. Kb2 Rd2+ 
    63. Rc2 Qe5+ 
    64. Kb3 Qd5+ 
    65. Kb2 Qd4+ 
    66. Kb1 Qxg1+ 
    67. Kb2 Qd4+ 
    68. Kb3 Rd3+ 
    69. Ka2 Qa4+ 
    70. Kb1 Rd1+ 
    71. Kb2 Qb4+ 
    72. Ka2 e1=Q 
    73. Rc1 Rd2+ 
    74. Rc2 Qeb1# 
     0-1

    Chessmater GM Edition [Evans L.] This one takes the cake!!
    [White "Evans"]
    [Black "Fritz 6"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    [Event ""]
    Petroff's Defence

      1. e4             e5           
      2. Nf3            Nf6          
      3. Nxe5           d6           
      4. Nf3            Nxe4         
      5. c4             Be7          
      6. d4             d5           
      7. Bd3            Bb4+         
      8. Kf1            O-O          
      9. Qb3            a5           
     10. cxd5           Nf6          
     11. a3             Bd6          
     12. Nc3            Nbd7         
     13. Bg5            h6           
     14. Bh4            Re8          
     15. Bb5            g5           
     16. Nxg5           hxg5         
     17. Bxg5           Qe7          
     18. Qd1            b6           
     19. Kg1            Kg7          
     20. h4             Qf8          
     21. Bc6            Rb8          
     22. Qf3            Qh8          
     23. h5             Kf8          
     24. Rh4            Ba6          
     25. Qf5            Re7          
     26. h6             Rbe8         
     27. Bd2            Qh7          
     28. Qxh7           Nxh7         
     29. b3             Kg8          
     30. Rh3            Nhf6         
     31. Rf3            Kh7          
     32. a4             Bc8          
     33. Rc1            Ba3          
     34. Rf1            Ba6          
     35. Rb1            Bb4          
     36. Rc1            Bc8          
     37. Bb5            Bxc3         
     38. Rcxc3          Nxd5         
     39. Rc1            Rg8          
     40. Bd3+           Kh8          
     41. Rf5            N7f6         
     42. Rg5            Rge8         
     43. f3             Be6          
     44. Bb5            Rd8          
     45. Re5            Nd7          
     46. Ree1           Nf8          
     47. g3             Ng6          
     48. Bd3            Kh7          
     49. Bg5            f6           
     50. Bd2            Rd6          
     51. Bb1            Rf7          
     52. Rc2            Bf5          
     53. Rxc7           Nxc7         
     54. Bxf5           Rxd4         
     55. Be3            Rb4          
     56. Rb1            Nd5          
     57. Bd2            Rd4          
     58. Rb2            Ne7          
     59. Be6            Rf8          
     60. Kg2            Rd6          
     61. Bh3            Re8          
     62. Kf2            Ne5          
     63. Ra2            Kg6          
     64. Rc2            Red8         
     65. Be3            Nd5          
     66. Bd2            Nb4          
     67. Bxb4           Nd3+         
     68. Kg1            Nxb4         
     69. Rf2            Kxh6         
     70. Bf1            Rd1          
     71. Rh2+           Kg5          
     72. Rf2            Nd3          
     73. Re2            f5           
     74. Re6            f4           
     75. g4             Rc8          
     76. Rd6            Rcc1         
     77. Rd5+           Kf6          
     78. Rd6+           Ke5          
     79. Kg2            Ne1+         
     80. Kh3            Rxd6         
     81. g5             Rc8          
     82. Kg4            Rh8          
     83. Bc4            Nc2          
     84. b4             Ne3#         
     0-1


    Chessmater GM Edition [White "Seirawan"]Now this really takes the cake!!
    [Black "Fritz 6"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    Dutch Reversed
      1. f4             d5           
      2. e3             Nf6          
      3. Nf3            Bg4          
      4. Be2            c6           
      5. O-O            e6           
      6. b3             Bd6          
      7. Bb2            O-O          
      8. Nc3            Bxf3         
      9. Bxf3           Re8          
     10. Qe1            e5           
     11. f5             Na6          
     12. Qh4            Nc5          
     13. Rad1           d4           
     14. exd4           exd4         
     15. Nb1            d3           
     16. Bxf6           Qxf6         
     17. Qxf6           gxf6         
     18. c3             Nd7          
     19. Bh5            Re4          
     20. g3             Rae8         
     21. c4             Kg7          
     22. Nc3            R4e7         
     23. Kh1            Kh6          
     24. Bg4            Kg5          
     25. Bf3            h5           
     26. Rc1            Bc5          
     27. h3             Bd6          
     28. Kg2            h4           
     29. g4             Bf4          
     30. Rcd1           Bg3          
     31. Rh1            Bd6          
     32. Rc1            a6           
     33. Rhf1           a5           
     34. Rcd1           Bc5          
     35. Kh1            Bb4          
     36. Rc1            Nc5          
     37. Kg2            Na6          
     38. Kg1            Bc5+         
     39. Kh1            Ba3          
     40. Rcd1           Bb2          
     41. Na4            Bd4          
     42. Nc3            Nb4          
     43. a4             Re2          
     44. Nxe2           dxe2         
     45. Bxe2           Rxe2         
     46. Rde1           Re5          
     47. Rxe5           fxe5         
     48. Kg2            Nd3          
     49. Kf3            Nc5          
     50. Rb1            e4+          
     51. Kg2            Nd3          
     52. Kh1            Bf2          
     53. Kg2            Be1          
     54. Kf1            Bxd2         
     55. Ke2            Bc1          
     56. Kd1            Kf4          
     57. Ke2            f6           
     58. b4             axb4         
     59. Kd1            Kg3          
     60. Rxc1           Nxc1         
     61. g5             e3           
     62. gxf6           e2+          
     63. Ke1            Kf3          
     64. Kd2            Nb3+         
     65. Ke1            Ke3          
     66. f7             Nd4          
     67. a5             Nf3#         
     0-1


    If you used Chessmaster in these matches, then you should know that no matter which personality you use in Chessmaster, it's always the same engine, named "The King". Considering those personalities as accurate representations of the Grandmasters is a big mistake.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #10

    bugswattr

    I've seen games before where IMs and FMs and even GMs will choose a different move than a computer. At first the computer will analyze the position to show that move as an error but 10 moves later it turns out to be just as effective but not as sharp. Its just a different way of approaching the problem.


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