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Magnus Carlsen - "the Mozart of Chess"


  • 17 months ago · Quote · #1

    Scala

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #2

    Kingpatzer

    Live ratings aren't official.  Though likely he will, it would take a rather spectacular collapse at this point to stop it from happening. 

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #3

    Scala

    I´m a huge fan of Kasparov but I think Carlsen is much better. For me, Carlsen is the best player of all time...

    I also think that Kasparov retired because he predict the rise of Carlsen and he had afraid of playing with him and lose his career glory because many people see kasparov has the best, someone almost invincible just beaten by the  Machines

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #4

    Kingpatzer

    Records are made to be broken. Someday someone will dominate at the top more than Fischer did too, if we play the game long enough. 

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #5

    Kingpatzer

    While only Kasparov knows for sure why he retired, it is hard to argue that he recognized that his own abilities where decreasing, while his immediate competitors (Kramnik and Anand) where still going strong. And the reality of a new crop of geniuses was developing in the wings surely had to be something he was aware of. 

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #6

    Scala

    I don't think Kasparov considered that is own abilities where decreasing when he retired.

    What he found was someone stronger than him and with a lot potential to "grow up" is chess power.

    That person was Carlsen... Kasparov is a Human, Carlsen is a Alien... 

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #7

    Scala

    But I think that I made my point...

    What I would like to see was a match between kasparov versus carlson in the near future...

    It was better than Carlsen versus Fritz or Houdine or another chess engine...Don't you like to see it?

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #8

    ElKitch

    Thanks for posting!!

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #9

    trysts

    From my understanding, Carlsen can only be understood by chess engines and a handful of grandmasters in the world, so it makes me wonder what Carlsen represents to fans? Do they just want a younger player to beat the older players? Is there something else?

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #10

    chessman1504

    trysts wrote:

    From my understanding, Carlsen can only be understood by chess engines and a handful of grandmasters in the world, so it makes me wonder what Carlsen represents to fans? Do they just want a younger player to beat the older players? Is there something else?

    He provides fans with the luxury of watching greatness unfold. The fact that he's so young makes fans happy because fans can watch his rise to prominence for several years. Being only 22, he's sure to dominate for a long time. Go Carlsen! :)

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #11

    Paulerdos

    Does anyone know if Carlsen is playing to fight for the world championship title this year? I googled it, but couldn't find any information on it. 

     

    Also, I'm quite convinced that Kasparov cut open Carlsen's head when he was "coaching" him and implanted a very powerful engine. Its only a matter of time before Carlsen reveals it to the world. ... unless he doesn't know it himself. Dun! Dun! Du-unnn!

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #12

    Estragon

    Kingpatzer wrote:

    While only Kasparov knows for sure why he retired, it is hard to argue that he recognized that his own abilities where decreasing, while his immediate competitors (Kramnik and Anand) where still going strong. And the reality of a new crop of geniuses was developing in the wings surely had to be something he was aware of. 

     

    First of all, it is clear that he did NOT retire because of Carlsen, who was still only 15 at the time, and nowhere near the world's elite.

    He was still #1 in the world at his retirement.  It was motivated by the fact that after Kramnik had spent years ducking a rematch, once the title was to be consolidated Kasparov was granted no special status - he felt he should be the natural opponent, and he had a case for it.

    Instead, FIDE insisted he only was qualified to be one of the entries in the qualifying tournament, which Gazza found unacceptable and insulting.  Since he had been demonstrating his dominance in tournaments right along, he felt he had nothing to prove and retired.

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #13

    trysts

    Paulerdos wrote:

    Does anyone know if Carlsen is playing to fight for the world championship title this year? I googled it, but couldn't find any information on it. 

     

     

    I don't know if he's definitely going to play, but he didn't announce that he wasn't going to play, from what I can find. He's the number two seeded player in the candidates tournament:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_2013

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #14

    jambyvedar

    Scala wrote:

    I´m a huge fan of Kasparov but I think Carlsen is much better. For me, Carlsen is the best player of all time...

    I also think that Kasparov retired because he predict the rise of Carlsen and he had afraid of playing with him and lose his career glory because many people see kasparov has the best, someone almost invincible just beaten by the  Machines

    Sorry this is premature to say. Let see first Carlsen dominating chess for 20 years as world number one. Let see first Carlsen becoming a word champion and defending it..

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #15

    Elubas

    I thought Kasparov was just passionate about politics. Or is that just his excuse do you think?

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #16

    Paulerdos

    trysts wrote:
    Paulerdos wrote:

    Does anyone know if Carlsen is playing to fight for the world championship title this year? I googled it, but couldn't find any information on it. 

     

     

    I don't know if he's definitely going to play, but he didn't announce that he wasn't going to play, from what I can find. He's the number two seeded player in the candidates tournament:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_2013

    I have seen that link before, but I've also read recently (forgot where, but perhaps on the news results when I googled Carlsen) that Carlsen, Aronian and Kramnik weren't taking part in competing for the challenger for Anand. Also, Gelfand seemed disgruntled and said that he was surprised that Carlsen isn't taking part to be the challenger even after FIDE changed some rules to accomodate his wishes (whatever they were). Or did this refer to the WCC of 2012?


    Also, I'm unsure of exactly how the challenger is determined nowadays. Do you HAVE to play in the candidates tournament? Or can you qualify in some other way as well?

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #17

    bigpoison

    It certainly isn't an "excuse".  That's absurd.  He had nothin' to prove.

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #18

    varelse1

    Kingpatzer wrote:

    Live ratings aren't official.  Though likely he will, it would take a rather spectacular collapse at this point to stop it from happening. 

    Yes, he will. If not this month, then soon. Is only a matter of time now. For all Kasparov's strengths, he never displayed the consistency Carlsen has shown us. I swear, that guy is a machine. He practicaly never loses.

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #19

    varelse1

    trysts wrote:

    From my understanding, Carlsen can only be understood by chess engines and a handful of grandmasters in the world, so it makes me wonder what Carlsen represents to fans? Do they just want a younger player to beat the older players? Is there something else?

    Good question, trysts. I cannot speak for the world, but I can tell you what I think.

    I think Carlsen is great because he never, never has an off tounament. He either wins it, or comes in second. (Is the guy to beat.) The only top GM that comes close is Kramnik.

    Other GM's that level, (Aronian, Anaand, Gelfand, for examples), may win a given tournament. But then the very next tournament come in like 9th, or worse.

    It's like Magnus never has a bad day. (Or maybe it's like he is better on a bad day than most GM's are on their best. I wonder.) You just cannot replace that level of dependability.

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #20

    Elubas

    I agree with you, bigpoison.


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