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Magnus plays the Awful French


  • 5 years ago · Quote · #61

    bigpoison

    marvellosity wrote:

    Elubas: you think I haven't seen French-bashing threads too?

    bigpoison: I trust implictly in you that you put that apostrophe there on purpose.


    I did say that Im an idiot.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #62

    Cutebold

    This stigma against Americans... aww. Well, man, if Carlsen is playing it, it must be terrible! Weaver W. Adams is rolling in his grave and getting ready to write that refutation right now.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #63

    marvellosity

    Cutebold wrote:

    This stigma against Americans... aww. Well, man, if Carlsen is playing it, it must be terrible! Weaver W. Adams is rolling in his grave and getting ready to write that refutation right now.


    No stigma, Cutey - just bafflement :)

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #64

    Cutebold

    Count me among the baffled then.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #65

    Madeinthemind

    very passive......though it can be tricky if you're patient.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #66

    Elubas

    Madeinthemind wrote:

    very passive......though it can be tricky if you're patient.


    See, anti french threads can come from people who think it's very passive. It's a very solid structure, but it would be wrong to classify it as "very passive". I suppose some passive lines are there like 3 Nc3 dxe4 (though when I play this against strong players hoping for a draw I have done extremely well with no losses and some wins!) but most lines where white closes the center with e5 black gets dynamic counterchances. Yeah black's center is super solid, but in fact it's this solid central strcuture that allows him to go all out on white's pawn chain.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #67

    chessmaster102

    dc1985 wrote:
    rich wrote:
    ManicDragon wrote:
    rich wrote:
    ManicDragon wrote:
    rich wrote:
    ManicDragon wrote:

    I agree. The French Defence is horrendously weak, offers no counter-play, and has essentially been refuted. And to top it all off, it's a boring abomination.

     

    That's sarcasm for those people who aren't paying attention.


     Actually the French is okay. This seems weird coming from someone who plays 1.a3 which is a weak move.


    "That's sarcasm for those people who aren't paying attention."

    Maybe I should have put it in bold for the people who really, really aren't paying attention. Like, in-a-coma-not-paying-attention.

    And I'm not sure I consider you to be an authority on openings, Rich.


     1.a3 is too rubbish. d4, c4, and e4 are all superior.


    Rich, I'm just going to let this one drop. I have a very difficult time locating your miniature world so that I can argue with you in a way that will actually get through and register.

    Please, for the sake of my sanity, don't quote this and start stating things in your "matter-of-fact" way.


    Why was you calling the French a bad opening? 1.a3 is by far worse and never played at top level. Don't call other openings when you use even sillier ones.


    Rich, for goodness' sake, ManicDragon was using SARCASM! He even stated that he was, in fact, being sarcastic.

    For the original thread... How exactly is the French a weak opening? There are plenty of masters and grandmasters who play the French! The top ten or so players may not, but this could very well be a matter of taste.

    By the way... You show dislike for the French, yet you play it... routinely... Sounds suspicious to me! =)


    When people play Qg4  AFTER PLAYING THE WINAWER I get pretty annoyed but other than the constant QG4 threat the french is ok.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #68

    Madeinthemind

    Elubas wrote:
    Madeinthemind wrote:

    very passive......though it can be tricky if you're patient.


    See, anti french threads can come from people who think it's very passive. It's a very solid structure, but it would be wrong to classify it as "very passive". I suppose some passive lines are there like 3 Nc3 dxe4 (though when I play this against strong players hoping for a draw I have done extremely well with no losses and some wins!) but most lines where white closes the center with e5 black gets dynamic counterchances. Yeah black's center is super solid, but in fact it's this solid central strcuture that allows him to go all out on white's pawn chain.


    i wasn't being serious. i personally don't mind the french as long as i am in control of the game. it allows me to develop some nasty tactics while maintaining a long term positional plan which is something you can't acheive with other openings. it's usually a tactical or positional game, but the french allows for some flexibility in this regard and that's why i say it can be tricky if you are patient. i was pointing out that players who are quick to write it off and who are not grandmasters are simply impatient in their analysis.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #69

    Madeinthemind

    i was going to mention it's also "passive" LOOKING because you allow the opponent the opportunity to due themselves in with an anxious closing of the center, but you stated that before i was able to get to it.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #70

    banjoman

    Here is my best game in the French for anyone interested.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #71

    Fear_ItseIf

    TacticalCyborg wrote:

     what can i say?the first thing comes on my mind.how old are you?you talk like under 10.no offense...but it seems you dont know anything of chess at all,french is the 2nd most populer way to play against e4.the first one is sicilian.

    >Necro 3 year old thread.

    >Claim OP talks (types) like 'under 10', when your grammar is horrible.

    >Accuses OP of knowing nothing about chess, proceeds to say that the french is the second most popular response to e4.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB3tOGiZ6UM


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