Max number of moves

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4th November 2008, 08:37am
#1
by piotr
Poznań Poland
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The puzzle...

 

The initial chess position allows White to play 20 legal moves. Do you know what's the max number of legal moves in a given legal position? I recall it was something like 200+, but don't know the exact number. Any ideas?

 

I just found a position with 218 legal moves:

4th November 2008, 08:58am
#2
by piotr
Poznań Poland
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Vrom it is interesting. Though, it is not a legal position - too many White pieces.

4th November 2008, 09:23am
#3
by piotr
Poznań Poland
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Tunatin: I think it was b3-b2 just after check :). Right?

4th November 2008, 09:35am
#4
by piotr
Poznań Poland
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:)

4th November 2008, 09:39am
#5
by mossman500
Virginia United States
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I know one with 457 legal moves, but its a secret I can't share :)

4th November 2008, 09:54am
#6
by santiR
outside Washington D.C. United States
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the vrom one has too many pieces to be possible

7th November 2008, 01:19am
#7
by piotr
Poznań Poland
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mossman500: I don't think it is possible. You can have 9 queens only. And it must be a legal position.

20th November 2008, 02:43pm
#8
by jimmy_page
Perth Australia
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yea

20th November 2008, 04:21pm
#9
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
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That position wouldn't ecure in a proper game.

9th February 2009, 04:17pm
#10
by kid_of_chess
Ottawa,Ontario Canada
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its legal, no?

13th August 2009, 05:54pm
#11
by burntchips
toronto Canada
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ITS LEGAL!!! White has his initial: King (of course) Queen Bishops Knights. The 8 extra queens are from pawns.

1st December 2009, 04:54am
#12
by knuckleheads
Vancouver Canada
Member Since: Dec 2009
Member Points: 1
burntchips wrote:

ITS LEGAL!!! White has his initial: King (of course) Queen Bishops Knights. The 8 extra queens are from pawns.


I doubt you could get the black king into that position without a mate or stalemate somewhere.  The white bishop would have had to been the last two moves but before that it doesn't look like there were any possible safe positions for the king (perhaps if a black piece were in front of it...seems improbably though).  Also not too sure how you could turn 8 pawns into queens, yet still have two black pawns left on the board.   It would be interesting to try and manage this puzzle though....

1st December 2009, 05:02am
#13
by kushtyman
London United Kingdom
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 17

Clearly a drawn position.

 

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