probably right. I think this perception is changing gradually but in some quarters it is still intact; I hate to say it but the "older" generation (people now in their 60s, 70s, maybe even some in 50s) may have to die off before this kind of stuff is gone.

I will say that it goes both ways. I have worked in offices with women in traditionally female jobs and I have been treated horribly, gossiped about, stabbed in the back, manipulated and lied to by women who were threatened by working with a man. IT DEFINITELY GOES BOTH WAYS.

what is fearless about? may have to pick it up

I wonder what percentage of mechanical engineers are female? Is it because they can't do the math or is it because it's a profession heavily dominated by men?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92881902

Here you go. A story on math/female stereotypes.

omg - that's not a new question; the answer is, more boys/men like math and science than women, in spite of govt efforts to encourage/coerce/incentivize women to do math and science. 

There are professions dominated by women - e.g. nursing; why does no one ever say that men are discrimated against in those fields?? 

I REPEAT: IT'S OKAY FOR MEN TO BE MEN, AND WOMEN TO BE WOMEN.

In case you missed it, the story says that men and women are coming closer to parity, and are in fact pretty much there. That is with the current generation of grade/high schoolers, so I imagine it will take a decade or two for this generation to finish university and establish careers.

the truth is women are now outnumbering men in colleges, in graduation numbers, and beginning to take over many career field, precisely because of 50 years of efforts by feminists and govt to elevate women at the expense of men. Guess what? It worked!! Men are the oppressed group, not women. We are the ones who are discriminated against by the "oppressed" group. It is so obvious it's not even arguable. 

Your views don't reflect reality. 18 out of 500 Fortune 500 CEO's are women. Women are over represented in lower level jobs and under represented in higher level jobs.

I don't think anybody should be elevated at the expense of others, but have men never been elevated at the expense of women? I know woman have been told for centuries that they don't have the mental capacity of men. Gender should never be a factor in any intellectual pursuit, so girls as well as boys should be encouraged from an early age to develope their brains instead of being forced into some gender stereotype.

Women have traditionally stayed home with children and men have worked (an arrangement that is NOT wrong, by the way); only in the last 100 years or so have women been able to work; obviously there is not going to be instant parity at the CEO level; give me a break; look up the word "specious"; it is perfect for your last post. 

I have NEVER heard ANYONE tell women/girls that they did not have the mental capacity of men. Where did you grow up?? When I was in school many of the best students were girls; nobody had any issues with this (and this was the 60s, 70s). 

Men have been told for the past 30 years that women are BETTER than us. We are the ones who are being victimized. 

YOU ARE BRAINWASHED

http://www.womeninworldhistory.com/lesson18.html

How is pointing out history brainwashed? I've stated that neither men nor women should be discriminated against nowadays.

Show a source that proves that those statements are false, and I'll apologize.

You aren't making much sense here. This topic is actually about gender, unlike all the other topics you drag into a discussion of gender.

18/500=3.6%

I really doubt that many women are more concerned with child rearing than with their careers.

Men might be discriminated against nowadays which I've stated is wrong. YES, WRONG. But too many men bitch about what victims we are today while completely denying any discrimination toward women through history. I can understand why a lot of women don't have any respect for you. You whine about how evil feminists are while insisting that men have never done a single wrong through history. White, and sinless as snow. You call me biased?

If it was up to me, war would be done away with altogether, and neither men nor women would be killed in war.

You know that's not going to happen any time soon, but didn't feminists try to get the Equal Rights Amendment passed several year ago? It got voted down though.

I don't really know. I actually am not what most people would consider a feminist. I haven't read any feminist philosophy and I don't follow the movement.

I just want a fair shot in the business world.

I'm just asking about history. I've also stated that everybody should be treated equally.