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OK, so the players whose name appear under "Caught cheaters" section were not smart enough to threaten chess.com with a trial?
Anyway, right now nobody dares to accuse Dembo, so ... there are no accusations! It's just a rumour floating in the internet. And that image could be photoshopped.
It's not a rumor. Join the cheater's forum group, and read all about it.
Yeah, some anonymous users speaking in some remote and difficult to locate private group of a forum!
http://www.chess.com/groups/home/cheating-forum Not remote, or hard to find at all.
Highest profile cheaters ought to be displayed prominently, like a head on a pike, on the home page for all to see.
But this is business, not a justice site, so no one ought to lose sleep waiting for that. I imagine no one is, in fact.
So all our expectations are being met!
"You are banned from this group."
A private group. Anyway, facts are clear: Dembo is not a cheater. Well, she played some computerized games, but that is the rule for the top players here. You don't think that all of them are cheaters, do you?
Why on earth would you be banned from the group? Anybody can join.
There is no limit to un-objective people. I know you're probably using your mental energies somewhere more important bondocel, like with your job or family, and see the Dembo thing as a means to vent other frustrations without thinking about what you're saying, but you clearly misunderstand the situation. It is obvious Demobo cheated.
Your arguments that stevecollyer might have used a photoshoped picture or that all strong players play computer-like moves aren't even worth commenting on.
He (bondocel) know that, he just feel like saying it.
Oh ok :)
It's also obvious to me that Feller did cheat, but if nobody can prove that or nobody does want to prove that, it never happened. Do you see it now? Just posting a picture with some account closed for cheating means nothing, mistakes can happen.
So you like it or not, Dembo did not cheat because nobody dares to accuse her of that.
What about Stefan Docx? Who?? You will never find his name on chess.com, he didn't play here. Even though once he was in top 3 :)
The image was not photoshopped. I was here when it happened, and chess.com waited several months before finally banning her after the evidence was already overwhelming. She didn't just 'play like a computer'. Her games were virtually spot-on with Rybka, and on a consistent basis. I recall they had other masters look at her game history and they also felt it was blatantly obvious she was cheating.
The one thing I do agree though is the double-standard going on for everyone else on the cheating list. It would seem all they need to do is threaten legal action and chess.com will graciously remove their cheating label...
why are you keep reviving this dead horse ? but I do agree with you what you are saying.
Folks, Bondocel is being deliberately ironic here, please stop trying to stop him with facts. He is doing a pretend 1984 style rewrite history style job. Of course he really believes Dembo was guilty etc. His point is that since the public statements/evidence are gone, like in 1984 the novel then the incident never happened. When most cheaters that are banned here get banned their names are written out by chess.com, so like the case Bondocel mentioned of FM Stephan Docx or FM Atlantischess Dimitar whatever his name was it's *almost* like it never happened.
I think that even if cheaters had to pay back all the money won during a tournament, the tournament organization would invite these guys again, as they caused no real harm to them.
Other participants in tournament will never be able to claim any money from cheaters because of not winning a price.
As it was mentioned here before: Cheaters may win a lot, but risk of not being able to win money for some months or years in the future is quite low.
In most leagues, where you play OTB chess, you loose a game if a mobile rings or vibrates. So the rules are very hard. One can only participate if the rules are accepted.
Suggestion: Any team captain (not playing at a board himself) is only allowed to enter the board area, when requested by a player of his team.
@Fezzik: OK, I agree, the "live delay" is a good attempt. What about live spectators in the visitor's area? Are they supposed to have "delayed access" to the positions shown on the monitor screens as well?
I think this would be hard to manage, as organizers won't be willing to loose the poor number of live spectators, anyway.If I saw the players on stage shaking hands, I would not be patient enough to wait 15 minutes to see what happened at the end of the game, I suppose.
I started a thread on that subject in the cheaters forum.
is that a Freudian slip? (Cheaters forum as opposed to Cheating forum)
Look at my chess rating, and the answer will be obvious.
Where is this Cheaters/Cheating forum? Also somewhere in this string, it was mentioned that cheaters are posted, Where does this happen?
Just curious. Thanks.
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