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16th May 2009, 06:44am
#1
by Nabeal
Peshawar Pakistan
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 6932

I have played so far 23 completed games. I have never unneccessarily delayed a move and all those who have played (or are playing) agisnt me would acknowledge the fact.

Unfortunately I happened to engage with a couple of players who had to play two simultaneous games agaisnt me. No doubt, they are better players. They defeated me in first game (each). But in the second game where I acquired a bit better position (not without a die-hard effort), they seem to have stopprd moving that frequently as they were when game was in their control.

It is not that they might have not had the time.............. I have seen them logged in but not moving for many hours. And when I shared my feeling with one of those he gave me a shut-up call as he was sick of people telling him what he ought or ought not to.

I have always displayed my utter respect to the players ranked higher than me and have always tried to keep those motivated who are lower (than me) ranks.

" I am online, Its my turn, I know that no move could save me, but because I have some days/hours left, why should I move early?" 

Guide me guys .................. WHAT IS THIS ATTITUDE?

16th May 2009, 06:48am
#2
by aansel
Long Island United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 678

i can't comment on your specific situation but many times in the opening I tend to move quicker as I am following my own lines. If the game gets complicated I tend to epend more time. Also if I have many games going I tend to rotate and positions where I am worse tend to move to the back of the queue. Also many times family obligations cam limit my chess time. As long as they are miving within the game time limits you really have no complaints against them as they are behaving properly and are not just stringing out a lost position which is annoying but again within their rights.

16th May 2009, 06:53am
#3
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 4615

Perhaps they are taking longer as when you're losing you tend to think more about a given position? Remember to consider all possibilities. Although, of course, some people delay games because their rating is too precious to them.

16th May 2009, 06:55am
#4
by lastwarrior2010
Seattle, Washington United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 845
Nytik wrote:

Perhaps they are taking longer as when you're losing you tend to think more about a given position? Remember to consider all possibilities. Although, of course, some people delay games because their rating is too precious to them.


I agree, if you are playing people who move slowly, use conditional moves, and maby create more game.

16th May 2009, 07:05am
#5
by Nabeal
Peshawar Pakistan
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 6932

I dont have any grudge against them. otherwise I would have referred you to the games which i am mentioneing and you could witness it yourself that they are left with no options.

In a game that I played with a much high ranked player where I thought he had made a specific mistake and I dared to share it with him with my excuses. I told him that in three moves he will have to lose his queen after that wrong move and if he tried to save his queen he would get a Check-Mate in two moves, he not only appreciated my calculations but also resigned.

I think you are right. Some people love their ranking and wont let it break till last breath. May be I should keep in mind, "Five fingers are not the same".

16th May 2009, 07:08am
#6
by RainbowRising
United Kingdom
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 2966

Use the time to analyse further.

16th May 2009, 07:17am
#7
by alearthcore19
Birmingham Metro, Alabama United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 1184
alearthcore19 wrote:
Nytik wrote:

Perhaps they are taking longer as when you're losing you tend to think more about a given position? Remember to consider all possibilities. Although, of course, some people delay games because their rating is too precious to them.


 those people are crazy morons and suck really bad. Besides, they are a pain in the neck


 ONce I cared about my rating very much, but now I see that it's just a bunch of approximated numbers trying to determin you chess skills.

16th May 2009, 07:18am
#8
by alearthcore19
Birmingham Metro, Alabama United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 1184

Also, make a bit more gmaes if you can. (Keyword: A BIT)

16th May 2009, 08:13am
#9
by Nabeal
Peshawar Pakistan
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 6932

Smile And I thought the key words were, "IF YOU CAN".

16th May 2009, 08:30am
#10
by ilikeflags
Las Vegas, with Scouser blood United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1692

if my "only paying members can start threads" rule was in place, this thread would not exist...  get it?

not that this dude doesn't deserve to be able to get this off his chest, but maybe he could have found a thread (or 60) already devoted to this subject.

16th May 2009, 08:36am
#11
by Nabeal
Peshawar Pakistan
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 6932
ilikeflags wrote:

if my "only paying members can start threads" rule was in place, this thread would not exist...  get it?

not that this dude doesn't deserve to be able to get this off his chest, but maybe he could have found a thread (or 60) already devoted to this subject.


 Well if you have already digested 60 threads like this, this should cause no harm to your patience.

16th May 2009, 08:55am
#12
by ilikeflags
Las Vegas, with Scouser blood United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1692

it's not about patience it's about legitimacy. 

did you not read what i said?  you deserve to be able to rant.  next i bet you'll start a thread about vacations right?

16th May 2009, 09:00am
#13
by uritbon
tel aviv Israel
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1000

when I have a tough position I sometimes feel as if I can't handle it right now, and sometimes delay certain games for another time... every day I have 1 or 2 games that I just can't seem to find the right moves in, if I just return to the game a day later I find making the move easier.

I don't so it because I want the game to be longer, I do it to avoid making a bad move.

16th May 2009, 09:04am
#14
by Nabeal
Peshawar Pakistan
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 6932
ilikeflags wrote:

it's not about patience it's about legitimacy. 

did you not read what i said?  you deserve to be able to rant.  next i bet you'll start a thread about vacations right?


Tongue out How much would you like to bet?

16th May 2009, 09:06am
#15
by athalurijagadish
hyderabad India
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 73

i understand your positon well.i   play in another sight ,one guay lost a game,and he called me lucky ...i played again telling him to be polite.soon he lost his queen.he used expletives.again i pointed to him to behave.he told me to shutup.which i did,and bet him solidly.they vent their anger like that.i told myself let your game do the talking and let the sight incharges deal with them.i forgot the incident .i am feeling better.forget them and deal with the next game.good luck.

16th May 2009, 09:16am
#16
by Nabeal
Peshawar Pakistan
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 6932
athalurijagadish wrote:

i understand your positon well.i   play in another sight ,one guay lost a game,and he called me lucky ...i played again telling him to be polite.soon he lost his queen.he used expletives.again i pointed to him to behave.he told me to shutup.which i did,and bet him solidly.they vent their anger like that.i told myself let your game do the talking and let the sight incharges deal with them.i forgot the incident .i am feeling better.forget them and deal with the next game.good luck.


 I could not agree more. After Having a shut call from an opponent when I stopped writing any further messages, he pushed me by stating, "not so keen making any more statements?" and I replied , "Let this board make the final statement".

And after disabling the chat and blocking my messages, the remark that he made would ebarrasse any chess player in the world; "THE GAME MEANS NOTHING". 

ALAS! 

16th May 2009, 09:17am
#17
by Nabeal
Peshawar Pakistan
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 6932

And by the way, in very next move he received a humble Check Mate.

16th May 2009, 10:26am
#18
by Nabeal
Peshawar Pakistan
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 6932
atomichicken wrote:
NabeelDaSorcerer wrote:

I have played so far 23 completed games. I have never unneccessarily delayed a move and all those who have played (or are playing) agisnt me would acknowledge the fact.


But, tell me. In what way is your opponent moving slow such an inconvenience to you that you have to pressure him to do something which he is totally in his rights not to do? I'm on your opponent's side here. It would be just about as logical for me to ask you to play slower..


 Yes Sir! you would be cpmprehensively logical, ethical and Legal to ask someone to LOSE ON TIME............

16th May 2009, 11:08am
#19
by Nabeal
Peshawar Pakistan
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 6932

"You can run but you cant hide".......... Is this one of YOUR DECENT REASONS?

16th May 2009, 11:17am
#20
by xFiredx
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 40

If you told your opponent to move faster in an OTB game, you would be warned by the arbiter.  I don't understand why so many people whine about people playing by the rules.  Your opponent is perfectly entitled to use every last second of his time to choose his move.  You are not entitled to distract him with patronising comments.

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