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My little 2 cents on the issue. Wait, what was the issue?. Let’s call it 2 things.
a) Chess ratings here (@chess.com). I tend to agree with someone above who said that the closest thing to ratings here are the blitz ones, not so much for the “closeness” with real OTB rating (which BTW I personally don’t have any), but rather to discard the other 2. Assisted computer chess is virtually a different sport, and you are free to go to the best site (ICCF) and try your luck there if the format suits you. While bullet, well, I think is not for everybody, and very much (even exclusively) suited for others. According to what I see here, from all titled players below GM (who by the way, are identity certified by the server) their Blitz ratings tend to be BELOW their FIDE OTB ratings. The usual CM / NM are (chess.com blitz) somewhere around 2000-2150, while the regular FM /IM (again chess.com blitz) are about 2150-2400 here. GM´s have their “own league” for the blitz somehow, not meaning –necessarily-a higher one, but a broader ranged one, going from 2200 (or less!) all the way to the very first spots, filled with real figures such as Wesley So, Caruana, and Nigel Short. Notice that for all cases their “blitz range´s roof” is about their OTB rating floor.
Now, intending to draw any kind of correspondence for the lower ranked would be highly speculative. To begin with, we don’t even have any real OTB rating proof beyond believing the own player’s claim, and secondly, I personally believe that there is a huge disadvantage for players with ratings below 1800 in blitz compared with anyone above and their real ratings, or rather real chess level. For what I’ve seen most people blitz rated above 1500 (chess.com blitz) they really know the game and play to some extent with a lot of soundness and skill, but later somehow they get nervous, they run into time scrambles and throw their games off the window. Not something that they would do (at least not nearly frequently) in a real game with time to think and avoid blunders. For instance, the other day I agreed to 4 unrated games with a friend of mine here, 2 five mins, and 2 ten mins (u can check them in my archive). He is rated about 1350 and I never felt that I was outplaying him seriously, and I got kind of shocked about it during the games, and also nervous. But suddenly, he got into time trouble and, let me borrow from boxing here, allowed knock out, in all of them. Otherwise, the judges´ scores (continuing with the Box analogy) may have been from drawn to maybe one or 2 points above for me.
I tend to think that such is more the rule than the exception for those cases. Which by the way, according to the site statistics (http://www.chess.com/livechess/players?type=Blitz&page=1) may be well above 90% of them, for which the average rating is 1115 for 1.354.137 players (again, only "blitz" players).
This (chess ratings blitz and real ones) issue has become way more complicated (and longer!) to overview than I expected when started, so I may let my intended other penny….
b) Chess improvement,
For later, particularly, if anyone cares to know trough some feedback.
What did he say?
Nigel Short is playing on chess.com??
I believe his handle is the anagram HonestGirl
I think what he said is blitz is the only "for real" form of chess.
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You have never played me or seen my recent games otb and you are going to indirectly mock me? What is the point of that? what does that accomplish? Just talk to me, question me, play me and make your own assesment rather then acting a bit like a kid, please. I'm not offending your or anything
Well I wish you luck! :) Don't be disappointed if you're not 2000 after just a year. We're talking world class improvement here, not just "that's really hard, not many do it"
If you find out you're "only" 1600 or something don't be discouraged. That's tremendous! And if you do 1600 that fast there's no stopping you to 2000 in the near future in any case.
Well thank you for being positive! that's more then nearly everyone else I met on here has ever done. I won't be dissapointed if I'm not 2000, even though I stick to near that area as an opinion of mine, But even over 1500, i'll be happy. I feel like i'm a bit over 1500 though. What gets me about it is that it has been done, Look at Blackburn, started at 18 and 2 years later he was one of the best in england, doing simals. Then everyone gets it in their head that it's impossible, it's too complex. That's part of the issue there, Not enough confidence. I try to take away the complexity of that by seeing the patterns and just doing training, having fun, and saying hey it's a game, hard game but all the moves are there, just have to find them. That's my opinion on chess anyhow.
The only discouraging thing for me is just the people (as you may have found out) lol Rating, nah. Just the folk that act like they have known me for life. Oh and Valeri is a great teacher. Go ahead and have a lesson with him, He tells you your mistakes, what would be better, how it would be better, gives you home work, recommends good books to read, ect ect. He is NOT how that guy put it as "All your mistakes are minor set backs". I just want to make sure no one thinks he's bad because of that xD he's the best I have met so far
I didn't mean to offend you. Sorry if my post hit you too hard.
I'll make an assessment when I'll see your OTB tournament games. If you can reach 1800 USCF within one year, I'll be the very first to congratulate you. Actually, if you have the courage to go and play in an OTB rated tourney, you already have my respect
But boasting a 2200 level because you played against ChessMaster just shows a clear lack of, let's say, experience.
I also believe that opening one's eyes, especially when he is young, has some value. It doesn't mean I don't think you have potential in chess. It means your claims aren't based on anything solid just yet. There is a difference.
I'll make an assessment when I'll see your OTB tournament games. If you can reach 1800 USCF within one year, I'll be the very first to congratulate you. Actually, if you have the courage to go and play in a rated tourney, you already have my respect
Oh it's ok man, don't worry. I just didn't like how you kinda picked on my chess coach, Because he is a great guy, and he does point out mistakes. And if you make mistakes he will say "Ohh if you made that move against me I would do this this and this and would punish you" and we will have a laugh, So he teaches great.
Do you have a USCF? if you know where you are and you are 1800 or higher, we can play a few unrated games or something and you can make an assessment about me if you like. I'm nervous when playing people, so It would take a few games to loosen me up lol. I want to go to some tournaments sooo bad, but I have the perfect storm of events and location to keep me away from not just tournaments but chess clubs too. No clubs withing 40 minutes of me, no bus stations, I live in the middle of cornfeilds near the mountains with no car and a father who doesn't even want me to get a job yet haha. I'd need a car to get to a job anyway, but still.
Well I did say ChessMaster, and fritz 11, and told about games I had and my training and tacticts trainer levels, ect ect, all I'm missing is OTB tournament games, which is pretty hard for me to get to right now.
Well, I wish you have the opportunity to play OTB chess some day, because it's quite an experience
I don't have time to play training games against you, sorry, but I'd be interested to see the games that your coach labelled as 'of 2200 quality' (I'll refrain from making any comments, but I'm curious).
As for your coach, as I have never taken any lessons with him, and have no close chess relative having taken any lessons with him either, I don't have any opinion about him. But I would be critical of a coach sugarcoating things too much. Anyway, I guess it's up to the student to decide what's good for him.
Well, I wish you have the opportunity to play OTB chess some day, because it's quite an experience
I don't have time to play training games against you, sorry, but I'd be interested to see the games that you coach labelled as 'of 2200 quality' (I'll refrain from making any comments, but I'm curious).
Well thank you. If there are any oppertunities to play some OTB I'd love to and play those. I am thinking of working at Moreau state park because it's the only place within walking distance. A 40 minute walk, but If I want to prove myself, see where I am at, I have to be able to get a car, and save money to head to tournaments, ect ect. Maybe I can find those games I played and send you the notation in note sometime, I'll look at a recorded lesson and write the notation down. If you want to give some critizism go on ahead and do that once you see a game or two (Maybe i'll play a couple against the computer tonight and send them to yah) I gotta learn where I went wrong to get better right? lol
He doesn't sugar coat things that I noticed, but he does compliment on good games. Small bits of sugar is kind of needed, a little reward to keep the moral up. But he does point out the bad moves you do, asks why you made that move, then shows you why it's bad, ect. So He is great really.
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