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My list of Top 10 chess players


  • 3 days ago · Quote · #101

    Justs99171

    Reb wrote:
    Justs99171 wrote:

    Here are 15 players that never became world chess champion and all of them were objectively stronger than Steinitz.

    Paul Morphy
    Tarrasch
    Pillsbury
    Maroczy
    Schlecter
    Rubinstein
    Nimzowitsch
    Bogo
    Fine
    Keres
    Sammy
    Bronstein
    Korchnoi
    Short
    Shirov
    Ivanchuk
    Topalov

    Seriously, you could even throw guys like Marshall and Janowski on this list, too. They would have beat the brakes off Steinitz. Most of these guys on this list were guys that just didn't get it done or didn't get the opportunity. Many of them were the strongest in the world or the 2nd strongest in the world at the time of their career.

     

    Topalov doesnt belong on this list as he did become world champion in St Luis , 2005 . 

    FIDE world champion and not real world champion. He then lost two world chess championship matches. He wasn't even a legitimate challenger against Anand. He was seeded into some bogus format.

  • 3 days ago · Quote · #102

    JamieDelarosa

    Justs99171 wrote:

    FIDE world champion and not real world champion. He then lost two world chess championship matches. He wasn't even a legitimate challenger against Anand. He was seeded into some bogus format.

    We could say the same about Karpov too, circa 1975, couldn't we?

  • 3 days ago · Quote · #103

    fabelhaft

    "We could say the same about Karpov too, circa 1975, couldn't we?"

    No.

  • 3 days ago · Quote · #104

    hcav

    El ajedrez utilizado para escudriñar la mente humana, daría mucha ayuda a la persona y la humanidad.  Cuando esta jugando el individuo el cerebro manda ondulaciones internas que si se analizaran graficamente se podría encontrar la vocación y el éxito infalible de cada persona.

  • 2 days ago · Quote · #105

    Justs99171

    JamieDelarosa wrote:
    Justs99171 wrote:

    FIDE world champion and not real world champion. He then lost two world chess championship matches. He wasn't even a legitimate challenger against Anand. He was seeded into some bogus format.

    We could say the same about Karpov too, circa 1975, couldn't we?

    Not hardly. Karpov qualified to challenge for the world chess championship in a legitimate candidates cycle. Fischer defaulted. So Karpov defended his title twice after that. Topalov won a championship tournament when the champioship was split and never defended his title in a match. I'm not sure how anyone could fail to see the difference. Topalov wins a championship tournament that isn't legitimate vs Karpov winning a cycle that is legitimate. Karpov defends the title vs Topalov losing two world chess championship matches.

    You could argue that Karpov wasn't a legitimate champion, which I would disagree with; but you must see the discrepancies.

  • 2 days ago · Quote · #106

    varelse1

    Justs99171 wrote:

    FIDE world champion and not real world champion. He then lost two world chess championship matches. He wasn't even a legitimate challenger against Anand. He was seeded into some bogus format.

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    I was more comfortable calling Topolov champion than some of the others FIDE crowned during that period.

  • 2 days ago · Quote · #107

    Justs99171

    varelse1 wrote:

    Justs99171 wrote:

     

     

    FIDE world champion and not real world champion. He then lost two world chess championship matches. He wasn't even a legitimate challenger against Anand. He was seeded into some bogus format.

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    I was more comfortable calling Topolov champion than some of the others FIDE crowned during that period.

    I can agree with that, but he won his FIDE world chess championship in a tournament that didn't include the "classical" world chess champion.

    There is no dispute that Karpov was the legitimate world chess championship challenger.

    It's easy to justify putting Topalov on a list of people that didn't win the world chess championship while omitting Karpov.


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