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But please don't let the reality of the situation get in the way of your opinion :).
Nope, no one will ever take Carlsen's title. He will lose the title when he retires. He is just too good.
Ya but to be fair Carlsen should have completely lost that game. Nakamura outplayed Carlsen for the first 35 or so moves, and had an outright win he missed due to time pressure. Based on that I expect that in future matches Carlsen wont have such a good record. Not to mention most of Nakamura's losses against Carlsen came when he was just breaking into the world elite, and he's been getting many more draws than losses recently.
and yet he lost
and he was not in time pressure
The person who's really having a bad tournament is Caruana. In every game I've seen he has mightily struggled to not lose and maintain a draw. I don't remember him winning any games either. I think this high level chess is a little outside of his abilities.
Caruana must IMHO adopt a lighter playing agenda. He plays way too many games, and this has an effect to the quality of his play. Else, I consider him being clearly a better player than Nakamura.
Carlsen's last loss was to Caruana.
But that was last summer, if I recall.
Caruana is too weak. Not chess wise but mentally. He's too quite and a bit of a nerd. Compare to Carlsen who is very active and oozes self confidance.
Consider the Caruana is the youngest player there. Give him another couple of years at the top events like Carlsen already has had, and no doubt Caruana will rise to be right there with him and Aronian as the top three dominant players.
he is having a quite fiery rivaltry with Carlsen...
in his imagination
Him and some of his fans it seems
You guys are acting like Carlsen is the next Hulk Hogan:
When I come checking down and I mate in 1You gotta take a loss, it don't help to hideIf you have my pieces, then you have my mateI gotta be a manI can't let you tieI am a real Norwegianplay for the rights of each patzerI am a real Norwegianplay for what's rightplay for your life!!!
Before dismissing Naka's chances, it might be significant to note that prior to defeating Capablanca for the World Championship, Alekhine had never won an official game from Capablanca. He had accumulated a record of 5 losses, 5 draws, and zero wins, or 2.5 - 7.5. And prior to defeating Spassky for the World Championship, Fischer had never won an official game from Spassky. He had accumulated a record of 3 losses, 2 draws, and zero wins, or 1 - 4. And Both Alekhine and Fischer were too old to be "Improving Players," but they improved and won anyway
Apple and oranges. Alekhine loved chess and all the hard work he put in it to improve. Nakamura is a wannabe chess-genius. He can't afford to work less than Magnus.
Naka trying to dethrone Magnus is like someone who tries to conquer Everest dressed in a bathing suit, and slippers.
haha, you know how to express yourselves pfren:)
Why all this fuzz regarding Nakamura? he isnt that good anyway.
he trashtalks Carlsen on a daily basis and yet he come up short again.
Yes he where ahead by miles in the middle of the game in the latest game against Carlsen, but as someone has already mentioned above, he lost the game anyway.
No I too think that Caruana is the favorit to become the next Champ even if it has to take some years I think he will be there.
Nakamura is good, just not Extremely good.
Both attempts are doomed to fail, but at least Naka could play the candidates in a bathing suit and slippers.
I thought Naka was playing Gelfand.
Pfren was refering to the title of the thread.
I found this:
Clock times before move 34 - Nakamura 13:03, Carlsen 16:16.
Time usage in final sequence before time control 34. Nf5 0:05 Re8 0:21 35. Qg4 0:13 Qb6 1:34 36. Qh3 3:56 Qg6 0:14 37. d6 0:47 Nxd6 0:10 38. Nxd6 0:05 Rd8 0:21 39. Nc4 0:11 Qxe4 3:05 40. Qh5 6:33
So, he was not in time trouble. He had more than 2.5 minutes per move at the critical d6 moment.
Funny how that statement, and that avatar go hand-in-hand.
I am nothing else if not consistent.
I have to say this thread has way too much Caruana love and Naka hate to make any rational sense. Caruana rising to the top 3 in the world??? Hardly. Also lol at the guy who said Naka's "just good" .
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