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Nakamura, The Future World CHamp??


  • 2 months ago · Quote · #181

    Phelon

    But please don't let the reality of the situation get in the way of your opinion :).

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #182

    iLoveCarlsen

    Nope, no one will ever take Carlsen's title. He will lose the title when he retires. He is just too good.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #183

    pdela

    Phelon wrote:

    Ya but to be fair Carlsen should have completely lost that game. Nakamura outplayed Carlsen for the first 35 or so moves, and had an outright win he missed due to time pressure. Based on that I expect that in future matches Carlsen wont have such a good record. Not to mention most of Nakamura's losses against Carlsen came when he was just breaking into the world elite, and he's been getting many more draws than losses recently.

    and yet he lost

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #184

    SocialPanda

    Phelon wrote:

    Ya but to be fair Carlsen should have completely lost that game. Nakamura outplayed Carlsen for the first 35 or so moves, and had an outright win he missed due to time pressure. Based on that I expect that in future matches Carlsen wont have such a good record. Not to mention most of Nakamura's losses against Carlsen came when he was just breaking into the world elite, and he's been getting many more draws than losses recently.

    and he was not in time pressure

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #185

    Phelon

    The person who's really having a bad tournament is Caruana. In every game I've seen he has mightily struggled to not lose and maintain a draw. I don't remember him winning any games either. I think this high level chess is a little outside of his abilities.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #187

    varelse1

    Carlsen's last loss was to Caruana.

    But that was last summer, if I recall.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #188

    CumminsTomic

    Caruana is too weak. Not chess wise but mentally. He's too quite and a bit of a nerd. Compare to Carlsen who is very active and oozes self confidance.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #189

    FirebrandX

    Consider the Caruana is the youngest player there. Give him another couple of years at the top events like Carlsen already has had, and no doubt Caruana will rise to be right there with him and Aronian as the top three dominant players.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #190

    waffllemaster

    pdela wrote:

    he is having a quite fiery rivaltry with Carlsen...

     

    in his imagination

    Him and some of his fans it seems Tongue Out

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #191

    tigerprowl

    You guys are acting like Carlsen is the next Hulk Hogan:

    When I come checking down and I mate in 1
    You gotta take a loss, it don't help to hide
    If you have my pieces, then you have my mate
    I gotta be a man
    I can't let you tie

    I am a real Norwegian
    play for the rights of each patzer
    I am a real Norwegian
    play for what's right
    play for your life!!!


  • 2 months ago · Quote · #192

    ghms

    chessmicky hat geschrieben:

    Before dismissing Naka's chances, it might be significant to note that prior to defeating Capablanca for the World Championship, Alekhine had never won an official game from Capablanca. He had accumulated a record of 5 losses, 5 draws, and zero wins, or 2.5 - 7.5. And prior to defeating Spassky for the World Championship, Fischer had never won an official game from Spassky. He had accumulated a record of 3 losses, 2 draws, and zero wins, or 1 - 4. And Both Alekhine and Fischer were too old to be "Improving Players," but they improved and won anyway 

    Apple and oranges. Alekhine loved chess and all the hard work he put in it to improve. Nakamura is a wannabe chess-genius. He can't afford to work less than Magnus.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #194

    KnightsRuleTheGame

    haha, you know how to express yourselves pfren:) 

    Why all this fuzz regarding Nakamura? he isnt that good anyway.

    he trashtalks Carlsen on a daily basis and yet he come up short again.

    Yes he where ahead by miles in the middle of the game in the latest game against Carlsen, but as someone has already mentioned above, he lost the game anyway.

    No I too think that Caruana is the favorit to become the next Champ even if it has to take some years I think he will be there.

    Nakamura is good, just not Extremely good.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #195

    Sred

    pfren wrote:

    Naka trying to dethrone Magnus is like someone who tries to conquer Everest dressed in a bathing suit, and slippers.

    Both attempts are doomed to fail, but at least Naka could play the candidates in a bathing suit and slippers.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #196

    tigerprowl

    pfren wrote:

    Naka trying to dethrone Magnus is like someone who tries to conquer Everest dressed in a bathing suit, and slippers.

    I thought Naka was playing Gelfand.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #197

    varelse1

    tigerprowl wrote:
    pfren wrote:

    Naka trying to dethrone Magnus is like someone who tries to conquer Everest dressed in a bathing suit, and slippers.

    I thought Naka was playing Gelfand.

    Pfren was refering to the title of the thread.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #198

    SocialPanda

    Phelon wrote:

    But please don't let the reality of the situation get in the way of your opinion :).

    I found this:

    Clock times before move 34 - Nakamura 13:03, Carlsen 16:16.

    Time usage in final sequence before time control 
    34. Nf5 0:05 Re8 0:21 
    35. Qg4 0:13 Qb6 1:34 
    36. Qh3 3:56 Qg6 0:14 
    37. d6 0:47 Nxd6 0:10 
    38. Nxd6 0:05 Rd8 0:21 
    39. Nc4 0:11 Qxe4 3:05 
    40. Qh5 6:33 

    So, he was not in time trouble. He had more than 2.5 minutes per move at the critical d6 moment.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #199

    varelse1

    Phelon wrote:

    But please don't let the reality of the situation get in the way of your opinion :).

    Funny how that statement, and that avatar go hand-in-hand.

  • 2 months ago · Quote · #200

    Phelon

    varelse1 wrote:
    Phelon wrote:

    But please don't let the reality of the situation get in the way of your opinion :).

    Funny how that statement, and that avatar go hand-in-hand.

    I am nothing else if not consistent.

     

    I have to say this thread has way too much Caruana love and Naka hate to make any rational sense. Caruana rising to the top 3 in the world??? Hardly. Also lol at the guy who said Naka's "just good" .


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