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24th March 2009, 04:44pm
#1
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

Because of all the chaos and controversy sparked by the recent changes in the World Championship Candidates Cycle, I thought I would weigh in with my own ideas about how it should be run (This being the internet after all).

 

Bearing in mind that the sole purpose for the World Championship is to find the best player at a given moment in history. These moments have lasted less than one year (when the previous Champ won the rematch) up to 11 years (Between the Lasker Steinitz match and the Lasker-Tarrasch match). 3 years has been standard (Actually, not counting the FIDE matches and tournaments the average is more like 2.9 years. Interestingly, if you do count the various FIDE formats, then the Anand-Kramnik match was the 50th ever world championship).

 

But the systems introduced have been rather lax at producing the best. We had Lasker sticking around when Capablanca was dominating everything in sight. We had Kramnik champ when Kasparov still had 5 years of being the absolute top-dog left in him. In fact, looking at the only historical chess rating system worth looking at (chessmetrics) shows that the reigning world champ has only had the top performace rating at the end of the year 43 times out of 118 years (1886-2004). (The years they won the title are counted for them, but not the years they lost it).

 

Steinitz 1/7

Lasker 11/26

Capablanca 0/5

Alekhine 7/16

Euwe 1/2

Botvinnik 2/10

Smyslov 1/1

Tal 1/1

Petrosian 0/6

Spassky 0/3

Fischer 1/3

Karpov 6 out of 8

Kasparov 11 out of 13

Kramnik 1 out of 4

 

Kasparov and Karpov were by far the most `rightful`Champs. Petrosian should have held the title in`62 and `69 but not in between.

 

My system is inspired in part by this, and the accompanying article written by Jeff Sonas (For whom it was merely a thought experiment) and in part by a letter written to chessbase, I`m afraid I can`t remember who by, but I think they were proposing a new candidates system.

 

So, to my idea. From the preamble I imagine a number of you have already figured it out. The world champion of any given year should be the person who has the highest performance rating over the entire year, more or less. I`ve come up with a few caveats that I think ensure fairness.

 

  1. A minimum of 30 games must be played for consideration. I`m not sold on that particular number though. In order to encourage activity perhaps a 0.25 point bonus should be added per game, to a maximum bonus of 25 points (100 games).
  2. Only games against players rated 2500. I`m considering not using only a opponents rating at the time of the game, but their end of year rating instead. It would mean less punishment for losing against someone like Carlsen or Karjakin who shot up 100+ points a year. However, it causes great inconvenience, as the winner could not even be anticipated until the very end of the year.
  3. A player may drop all the game in any 30 period of his or her choice (These games not counting towards either game total or performance). This means that a single bad result won`t preclude them from contention, and using 30 days avoids arbitrary constructs like `tournaments`which stretch over many weeks, and many ups and downs of mood and skill, and also avoids problem related to thiings like the German Bundesliga.
  4. As a singularily high performance rating may not be dramatic enough fro some. Perhaps an early January Match should be arranged with the years winner with the previous champ, or with the man who came second. Or a tournament between the top 10. My own preference would be to simply give the title to the highest performer, the tension spread over the year in every tournament would more than satisfy my thirst for drama.
  5. Hans Arilde Runde would end up with more business than he could handle.

The main advantage of course is that it wouldn`t allow a match between, let`s say Anand and Kramnik when Topalov, Carlsen and Ivanchuk are all playing the best chess of their lives and Vishy and Kramnik are turning in results that could be described as, at best, mediocre.

 

So what do you think. Are you happy with the current system, have ideas of your own, are you ready to march to Kalmykia in protest.

24th March 2009, 04:50pm
#2
by phyxius
Omaha, Nebraska United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
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Very good article written

24th March 2009, 05:01pm
#3
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

Thanks but I was more curious about what people thought.

24th March 2009, 05:28pm
#4
by NM Reb
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 7857

I liked the system as it was in Fischer's day. One of the biggest problems is that the best tournament player often isnt the best match player. But I think head to head matches is a better way to determine the best player than a tournament. Petrosian was a great match player but not so good in tournaments due to his style. Geller was a great tournament player but did poorly in matches. To win tournaments you have to take more risks than to win a match thus the two formats are completely different. If you win a couple of games and draw the rest in a tournament you arent likely to win the tourney but do that in a match and you win .  Petrosian deserved to be world champ from 63-69 because he first defeated Botvinnik and then Spassky in their first match. He may not have been the highest rated player and his style of play meant he didnt do so well in tournies but he rarely ever lost ! Spassky won their second match and also deserved the title.

28th March 2009, 12:26pm
#5
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

OK, I applied the system to the 2008 results for the top 5 players (I'll probably do it for Jakovenko, Radjabov, Aronian and Movsesian later)

I didn't drop the worst performance, but I didn't count any game against players rated below 2500.

 

Carlsen  - 2953 (3 seperate 2900+ performances put him over the top)

Morozevich - 2920 (His second place finish (Of the 5 I calculated) was against an average opponent of 2682.4, the lowest of the 5.)

Ivanchuk  - 2888 (With 138 games, he was by far the most active player.)

Topalov - 2878

Anand - 2797 (With only 42 games, he was the least active player, but his average opponent was an incredible 2733.9)

30th March 2009, 12:28pm
#6
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

OK, revised performance rating from the 8 players I thought would have the highest performance ratings (Well, I obviously wasn't going to do this for them all). As you can see from below, Movsesian, Carlsen and Ivanchuk were definitely 1st 2nd and 3rd. Morozevich was probably 4th, but I can't be sure because I didn't do anyone. I know Radjabov and Jakovenko had higher TPRs than Topalov and the rest, but due to an error with the first batch (I counted January '08 and didn't count the Jan '09 games, which took place in 2008 and 2009 respectively) I didn't redo it for Radjabov and Jakovenko, but neither were within even a 100 points of Ivanchuk.

1. Movsesian 3000 (HIs average oppoennts were only 2625, by far the lowest)

2. Carlsen 2975

3. Ivanchuk 2940 (With 128 games, he was the most active

Morozevich 2908

Topalov 2847

Anand 2812 (His 2749 average opponent, thanks in large part ot the macth with Kramnik, was the highest, he was also the least active with only 50 games)

Aronian 2806

Leko 2762

 

People who probably deserve to be checked are MAxime Vachier-Lagrave, Wang Yue, Boris Gelfand (For his Olympiad perf.) and Grischuk.

10th April 2009, 02:40pm
#7
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

OK, so I decided that the FIDE calculator just won't work for this. I haven't been able to find the formula but it very strongly rewards actvity, but it goes up to a maximum of 99 games. This skews the numbers. So I'm re-entering the data and adding in Gashimov (Chosen for his Grand Prix win and rating increase).

The new calculator was chosen for impartiality ( it adds no bonus) and can be found at:

http://georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/TCA/perfrate.html

 

 

         Name         Score/     Average            PR

                       #of Games   Opponent

                                         Ratings

  1. Topalov      31/53         2743.3           2794
  2. Carlsen       56/91          2711.5           2793
  3. Morozevich 39.5/60      2669.6            2783
  4. Anand         27.5/50      2748.6           2783
  5. Ivanchuk     75.5/128     2716.8          2779
  6. Aronian       41/76         2730.6           2758
  7. Movsesian   62/94         2625.2           2740
  8. Leko          34.5/65      2712.4           2733
  9. Gashimov   56/97         2677.6          2731

 

These new results seem more reasonable to me, especially the lack of 2800+ TPRs and Topalov in 1st, who had an incredible string of victories, and Movsesian closer to the bottom, who was only chosen for consideration because of his rapid rating rise. Note that no bonus has been applied, as I'm rethinking the 0.25 points per game, though if they had been added Carlsen would have won. Here are the changes form old to new:

Movsesian 1-7 (-6)

Carlsen 2-2 (0)

Ivanchuk 3-5 (-2)

Morozevich 4-3 (+1)

Topalov 5-1 (+4)

Anand 6-4 (+2)

Aronian 7-6 (+1)

Leko 8-8 (0)

Gashimov N/A

 

The average change was 2 spots. Jakovenko and Radjabov will be added later, finishing the current top 10, perhaps Dominguez or or Vachier-Lagrave who both experienced rapid rating growth indicating high PRs. 

I'll also be updating the current ratings to take into account a drop of the lowest Performing Tournament (I've decided to avoid the troubles involved in things like the Bundesliga (Notorious for elite players underperforming) by simply ignoring them. I expect the rankings to remain largely the same with the most benefit probably going to Anand and Topalov (Who has relatively few games, and scored 6/13 (a large denominator) in Corus.

10th April 2009, 05:21pm
#8
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

New Rankings with Radjabov, Bacrot,  Kramnik (Can't believe I forgot him. OK, maybe I can, but 2008 was not his year) and Jakovenko added:

 

         Name         Score/     Average            PR

                       #of Games   Opponent

                                         Ratings

  1. Topalov      31/53         2734.3          2794
  2. Carlsen       56/91          2711.5           2793
  3. Morozevich 39.5/60      2669.6            2783
  4. Anand         27.5/50      2748.6           2783
  5. Ivanchuk     75.5/128     2716.8          2779
  6. Radjabov    60/108        2722             2761
  7. Aronian       41/76         2730.6           2758
  8. Jakovenko  66/108        2670             2748
  9. Movsesian   62/94         2625.2           2740
  10. Leko          34.5/65      2712.4           2733
  11. Gashimov   56/97         2677.6           2731
  12. Kramnik     24/49          2731.9           2724

There's the top 10, plus 2 (Gashimov and Aronian by the Jan '09 list.) All tournaments included of course (Dropping lowest PR is next) but all games against players rated below 2500 excluded.

 

Here are the rankings with each players lowest PR dropped. If this particular mthod of calculation i sused, then there should definitely be some sort of activity bonus, because of course, lower number of games means each PR has a greater affect on the annual PR, and will therefore get a greater bounce from this.

 

  1. Topalov              2732.8           2821(+25)
  2. Carlsen              2712.8           2800 (+7)
  3. Morozevich        2681            2794 (+13)
  4. Anand                2754.2           2790 (+7)
  5. Ivanchuk             2725.4          2786 (+7)
  6. Aronian (+1)        2730.4         2783 (+25)
  7. Radjabov (-1)      2723             2777 (+16)
  8. Jakovenko          2672.2           2760 (+12)
  9. Leko (+1)            2700.4           2747 (+14)
  10. Movsesian (-1)     2627             2747 (+7)
  11. Gashimov          2678.3           2747  (+14)
  12. Kramnik            2740.4            2740 (+16)
13th April 2009, 04:21pm
#9
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

Some additions. Dominguez, who I thought had a much better year than he did (He was harmed by the fact that he had more games than anyone else against players below 2500), Grischuk (To fill out the current top 10, sadly his Linares Performance isn't counted) and Yue (Who was =1 in one of the Grand Prix events etc etc).

 

        Name         Score/     Average            PR

                       #of Games   Opponent

                                         Ratings

  1. Topalov      31/53         2734.3          2794
  2. Carlsen       56/91          2711.5           2793
  3. Morozevich 39.5/60      2669.6            2783
  4. Anand         27.5/50      2748.6           2783
  5. Ivanchuk     75.5/128     2716.8          2779
  6. Radjabov    60/108        2722             2761
  7. Aronian       41/76         2730.6           2758
  8. Yue            60.5/96      2657             2750
  9. Jakovenko  66/108        2670             2748
  10. Movsesian   62/94         2625.2           2740
  11. Leko          34.5/65      2712.4           2733
  12. Gashimov   56/97         2677.6           2731
  13. Kramnik     24/49          2731.9           2724
  14. Grischuk     41/70          2653.7           2723
  15. Dominguez 28.5/48       2640.6           2721

 

Worst Performance Adjusted Rankings

  1. Topalov              2732.8           2821(+25)
  2. Carlsen               2712.8           2800 (+7)
  3. Morozevich         2681             2794 (+13)
  4. Anand                 2754.2           2790 (+7)
  5. Ivanchuk             2725.4           2786 (+7)
  6. Aronian (+1)        2730.4           2783 (+25)
  7. Radjabov (-1)      2723             2777 (+16)
  8. Jakovenko (+1)    2672.2          2760 (+12)
  9. Yue(-1)               2657.7          2751   (+1)
  10. Leko (+1)            2700.4          2747 (+14)
  11. Movsesian (-1)     2627             2747 (+7)
  12. Gashimov           2678.3          2747  (+14)
  13. Kramnik             2740.4           2740 (+16)
  14. Grischuk            2653.7           2734  (+11)
  15. Domniguez         2644.6           2727 (+6)
13th April 2009, 06:28pm
#10
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

well I chose to ignore games againt below 2500 players just for that reason. And even the best players in the world can't win every game against someone rated 2500, especially if the other GM is aiming for a draw as they ofen would against tough opponents. And opponents average ratings is very important in determining PR.

Also, this system could simply replace the various candidates systems hy taking the top player and having him play the previous champ, or the top 3 and having them player a couple of matches etc etc...

 

I just think that the Performance rating system should be taken into account in order to determine the champ because the title should go to the strongest player. And it's no longer clear who that is.

26th April 2009, 02:06pm
#11
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

3 new ones, Shirov, Bacrot and Nakamura, Nakamura's adjusted rating will surprise you.

 

        Name         Score/     Average            PR

                       #of Games   Opponent

                                         Ratings

  1. Topalov      31/53         2734.3          2794
  2. Carlsen       56/91          2711.5           2793
  3. Morozevich 39.5/60      2669.6            2783
  4. Anand         27.5/50      2748.6           2783
  5. Ivanchuk     75.5/128     2716.8          2779
  6. Radjabov    60/108        2722             2761
  7. Aronian       41/76         2730.6           2758
  8. Yue            60.5/96      2657             2750
  9. Jakovenko  66/108        2670             2748
  10. Movsesian   62/94         2625.2           2740
  11. Nakamura   23.5/33       2581.1          2738
  12. Leko          34.5/65      2712.4           2733
  13. Gashimov   56/97         2677.6           2731
  14. Kramnik     24/49          2731.9           2724
  15. Grischuk     41/70          2653.7           2723
  16. Shirov       39.5/75        2699              2722
  17. Dominguez 28.5/48       2640.6           2721
  18. Bacrot       58.5/100      2640.7           2700

 

  1. Topalov              2732.8           2821(+25)
  2. Carlsen               2712.8           2800 (+7)
  3. Morozevich         2681             2794 (+13)
  4. Anand                 2754.2           2790 (+7)
  5. Ivanchuk             2725.4           2786 (+7)
  6. Aronian (+1)        2730.4           2783 (+25)
  7. Nakamura (+4)      2581.5          2781 (+43)
  8. Radjabov (-2)      2723             2777 (+16)
  9. Jakovenko          2672.2          2760 (+12)
  10. Yue(-2)               2657.7          2751   (+1)
  11. Leko (+1)            2700.4          2747 (+14)
  12. Movsesian (-2)     2627             2747 (+7)
  13. Gashimov           2678.3          2747  (+14)
  14. Kramnik             2740.4           2740 (+16)
  15. Shirov (+1)         2692.6           2735  (+13)
  16. Grischuk (-1)       2653.7           2734  (+11)
  17. Domniguez         2644.6           2727 (+6)
  18. Bacrot               2641.3           2701 (+1)

OK, so Nakamura's example of having a low number of games and his lowest performance coming from his longest event (8 rounds) allowed him to have a much larger boost. So there definitely should be an activity bonus, but I'm not sure how much. I think instead of just adding a certain number of points per game, I'm going to adjust FIDE's performance rating calculator, which is inherently favourable towards active players.  But until then, Topalov is the champ.

8th May 2009, 12:40pm
#12
by Akuni
Nova Scotia Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1202

So, to anyone who might actual read it (And to my future self for posterity's sake) I've been rethinking my approach to this. First of all, the ban on counting games with opponents below 2500, I think that has to go. I did some math, and if your opponents average rating is below 2500, the highest PR you can get (With a perfect score that is) is 2700. Not even high enough to make the top 20. With that in mind, the first change I'm making is to abolish this limit. Weirdly, despite playing 128 games, Ivanchuk only had one more game included.

 

Secondly, I think the Nakamura example showed us that we can't just dump a whole event, it's unfair to thos ewhose worst event was a single game (As in the Bundesliga or a tiebreak), so instead, everyone get's to drop their worst 10% consecutive games! ISn't that fun! Basically, if you played 100 games, we diregard 10 in a row, the worst 10 in a row. Topalov, for example, has his last 6 games at Linares disregarded. This should balance it out, but I'm still gonna keep the unadjusted chart around, in case it ends up being weird. I like this because it subtly rewards activity, and doesn't punish one horrible event.

 

The old lists are in the post right above this

 

        Name          Average            PR

                        Opponent

                                         Ratings

  1. Topalov      2734.3          2793 (-1)
  2. Carlsen       2711.5           2793(=)
  3. Morozevich 2669.6           2783 (=)
  4. Anand         2748.6           2783(=)
  5. Ivanchuk     2716.8          2783 (+4)
  6. Radjabov    2722             2761
  7. Aronian       2730.6           2754  (-4)
  8. Yue            2657             2750
  9. Jakovenko  2670             2748
  10. Nakamura   2581.1          2738
  11. Movsesian   2625.2           2737 (-3)
  12. Leko          2712.4           2733
  13. Gashimov   2677.6           2731
  14. Kramnik     2731.9           2724
  15. Grischuk     2653.7           2723
  16. Shirov         2699              2722
  17. Dominguez  2640.6           2721
  18. Bacrot        2640.7           2700

 

  1. Carlsen       (+1)         2837 (+44) (+37)
  2. Topalov      (-1)         2822(+26) (+1)
  3. Aronian       (+4)        2817 (+53) (+34)
  4. Morozevich (-1)        2798 (+17) (+4)
  5. Anand         (-1)        2788 (+5)(-2)
  6. Ivanchuk     (-1)        2792 (+9)(+2)
  7. Nakamura   (+3)         2781 (+43)
  8. Radjabov    (-2)        2777 (+16)
  9. Movsesian   (+1)       2765 (+28) (+18)
  10. Jakovenko   (-1)       2760 (+12)
  11. Yue             (-1)       2751   (+1)
  12. Leko            (-1)      2747 (+14)
  13. Gashimov                2747  (+14)
  14. Kramnik                   2740 (+16)
  15. Shirov (+1)              2735  (+13)
  16. Grischuk (-1)           2734  (+11)
  17. Domniguez              2727 (+6)
  18. Bacrot                     2701 (+1)

p.s. I'm tired, I'll finish it later.

p.p.s. All Hail Magnus Carlsen, the newest World Champion.

p.p.p.s. Nope, not kidding.

 

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