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  • 22 months ago · Quote · #1

    immortalgamer

    I'm not going to keep my membership here or play live chess for one year.  I will continue read ing boooks, or keep up with chess current events, maybe do some tactics, but no more live computer chess for one year.

    Just wasting my life like someone who plays WOW all day.  Not that I ever played all day, but hours usually.

    Hours that could be spent better.  So good luck to ya all.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #2

    Mm40

    And how much more time did you waste writing this post?

    Nothing personal, but I just don't understand people feeling the need to share with the world.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #3

    orangehonda

    Looks like you played 58 1/0 games yesterday... I know how that is, the feeling of just one more game, then a few hours later you feel like you've wasted so much time and regret it Tongue out  Good luck with your habit, and goal of staying clean for 1 year Smile

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #4

    Dwell

    Mm40 wrote:

    And how much more time did you waste writing this post?

    Nothing personal, but I just don't understand people feeling the need to share with the world.


    Had to be...what...seconds?

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #5

    PrawnEatsPrawn

     

    Bye, bye.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #6

    orangehonda

    Letting others know about a change you plan to make in your day to day living helps you stick to it -- something like a self motivation technique I think.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #7

    NinjaBear

    Mm40 wrote:

    And how much more time did you waste writing this post?

    Nothing personal, but I just don't understand people feeling the need to share with the world.


    Like orangehonda said... it helps keep you to your word when shared. I'm thinking I need to do something similar to immortalgamer with regards to chess.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #8

    flatseven

    I'm sorry but 1 minute games are lame.  At least go 10/0 and give yourself time to think.  Then you might actually improve playing live.  One minute games are dumb.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #9

    orangehonda

    I've heard 1/0 games (or bullet games in general) compared to sight-reading in music.  That is, playing a piece you've never seen before straight from the sheet music.  Sure you may not be able to keep the tempo, and you may hit a few wrong notes, but it's challenging for the brain and somewhat exciting not knowing what's coming next.

    1/0 chess isn't for best moves, but it's for that kind of mental challenge.  People who disparage 1/0 I tend to think aren't able to play it.  It's not at all random moves above the 1000 level (or there abouts, I'm just guessing a number, I can say at the 1800-1900 level it's not at all random Smile) and is a fun mental exercise.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #10

    erik

    moderation in all things...

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #11

    TheGrobe

    Especially moderation.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #12

    immortalgamer

    Almost done with my first month.  NOT 1 game played.  I have kept up with some of the forum postings and news...but not 1 game of chess.

    So much more productive! 

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #13

    Musikamole

    orangehonda wrote:

    I've heard 1/0 games (or bullet games in general) compared to sight-reading in music. Smile That is, playing a piece you've never seen before straight from the sheet music.  Sure you may not be able to keep the tempo, and you may hit a few wrong notes, but it's challenging for the brain and somewhat exciting not knowing what's coming next.

    1/0 chess isn't for best moves, but it's for that kind of mental challenge.  People who disparage 1/0 I tend to think aren't able to play it.  It's not at all random moves above the 1000 level (or there abouts, I'm just guessing a number, I can say at the 1800-1900 level it's not at all random ) and is a fun mental exercise.


    Sight-reading in music takes a lot of practice. The musicians who can do it the best make several hundred dollars per hour in recording studios where time IS money. Studio musicians do not make mistakes when playing music never before seen.

    I agree. High rated bullet players do not play random chess and the accuracy is quite amazing. When I was a member of ICC I observed many Class A, Expert, and Titled players all the way up to GM play bullet chess. It's absolutely incredible how it really does look like a deep, well thought out slow game sped up to terrific speeds.

    I find it interesting how strong chess players make mistakes, but expert musicians do not. You see, perfection in music is possible. Cool

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #14

    orangehonda

    Hehe, maybe not the greatest comparison then :)

    Music isn't as... I don't know a good word... rigid?  A computer could play all the correct notes in literally "perfect" time but it wont sound good.  Part of making music means you're pulling and pushing the timing, accents, and stuff... I'm not a musician so those may not be the right words but hopefully you know what I'm trying to say.

    I've also watched GM blitz on ICC and am amazed.  Especially when a complicated tactic erupts that was completely off my radar, but it becomes obvious they had both planned for and seen this continuation __ moves deep.  Or any technical phase and they're super accurate... just grinding the guy to dust, very patient, no openings.  Fun stuff.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #15

    ivandh

    orangehonda wrote:

    Letting others know about a change you plan to make in your day to day living helps you stick to it -- something like a self motivation technique I think.


    It sure hasn't helped a whole lot of people on this site.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #16

    unga123

    Musikamole wrote:
    orangehonda wrote:

    I've heard 1/0 games (or bullet games in general) compared to sight-reading in music.  That is, playing a piece you've never seen before straight from the sheet music.  Sure you may not be able to keep the tempo, and you may hit a few wrong notes, but it's challenging for the brain and somewhat exciting not knowing what's coming next.

    1/0 chess isn't for best moves, but it's for that kind of mental challenge.  People who disparage 1/0 I tend to think aren't able to play it.  It's not at all random moves above the 1000 level (or there abouts, I'm just guessing a number, I can say at the 1800-1900 level it's not at all random ) and is a fun mental exercise.


    Sight-reading in music takes a lot of practice. The musicians who can do it the best make several hundred dollars per hour in recording studios where time IS money. Studio musicians do not make mistakes when playing music never before seen.

    I agree. High rated bullet players do not play random chess and the accuracy is quite amazing. When I was a member of ICC I observed many Class A, Expert, and Titled players all the way up to GM play bullet chess. It's absolutely incredible how it really does look like a deep, well thought out slow game sped up to terrific speeds.

    I find it interesting how strong chess players make mistakes, but expert musicians do not. You see, perfection in music is possible.


    I find it interesting that you say perfection in music in possible, especially when i saw you are an orchestra teacher. I play the violin, and even the best violinists ever practiced hours and hours a day and they never reached perfection. Simply put, perfection is impossible

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #18

    Musikamole

    orangehonda wrote:

    Hehe, maybe not the greatest comparison then :)

    Music isn't as... I don't know a good word... rigid?  A computer could play all the correct notes in literally "perfect" time but it wont sound good.  Part of making music means you're pulling and pushing the timing, accents, and stuff... I'm not a musician so those may not be the right words but hopefully you know what I'm trying to say.  Cool

    I've also watched GM blitz on ICC and am amazed.  Cool  Especially when a complicated tactic erupts that was completely off my radar, but it becomes obvious they had both planned for and seen this continuation __ moves deep.  Or any technical phase and they're super accurate... just grinding the guy to dust, very patient, no openings.  Fun stuff.


    You are not a musician? I find that remarkable, as you have descriped the performance of the written "rigid" notes by professional recording studio musicians and orchestra musicians perfectly. 

    The pro studio player, which is one step above the pro orchestra player only when it comes to note accuracy, will not make a single mistake regarding the notes presented on the page. Many orchestra players are also studio players, but not all. Studio players are the elite musicians of the world.

    Example: You will not hear the note C when the written note is C#, ever. It cost too much money for the entire orchestra to record a second pass just because one idiot failed to play C#. If he unfortunately does play C, then he will not be asked back again. It's that brutal.

    Will the note be played without the appropriate style, phrasing, timing?  No. The studio player must be fluent in all styles of music and render each style flawlessly.

    Example: In swing jazz , it is common for the winds to play just behind the beat of the rhythm section to make the piece swing/groove harder.

    To be more specific, the only time keeper in a swing jazz band is NOT the drummer, but the bass player. The bass player will play every note exactly on the beat, with a few exceptions determined by the arrangement, while everyone else plays around the beat. This is what gives the music a certain feel that only the most sophisticated music software applications are beginning to emulate (human playback).

    I have a few software applications that can emulate human performance, but it still doesn't sound as good as humans getting together and jamming. Smile

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #19

    Musikamole

    unga123 wrote:
    Musikamole wrote:
    orangehonda wrote:

    I've heard 1/0 games (or bullet games in general) compared to sight-reading in music. 


    Sight-reading in music takes a lot of practice. The musicians who can do it the best make several hundred dollars per hour in recording studios where time IS money. Studio musicians do not make mistakes when playing music never before seen.

    I find it interesting how strong chess players make mistakes, but expert musicians do not. You see, perfection in music is possible.


    I find it interesting that you say perfection in music is possible, especially when i saw you are an orchestra teacher. I play the violin, and even the best violinists ever practiced hours and hours a day and they never reached perfection. Simply put, perfection is impossible.


    You misunderstood what I said when taken in context. No worries.  Smile

    I'm not talking about perfection as it relates to total mastery of a musical instrument. One lifetime is not enough to fullfill that goal. Yo Yo Ma is the best cello player in the world, and he is still learning new ways to create art with his cello. That is the true gift given to a gifted musician. The discoveries are endless.

    Perfection in performance is possible in only this narrow sense: Never playing a wrong note in a studio session. Period. Studio players get payed several hundred dollars an hour because they do not make mistakes when sight reading. They are the best sight readers in the world, and don't get paid for playing wrong notes. The playing of wrong notes gets them fired.


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