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Can you guys clear this up for me? I was under the impression that in notation a dodgy move was written and follwed by ? If it was extremely dodgy ??? A good move would be followed by ! So I can't figure out what ?! means. I suspect its another variation of extremely dodgy but I'm not sure.
?! = dubious
!? = interesting
Both are "possibly good or bad", in different ways :-)
? usually means a bad move or blunder and ?? is usually a losing move .
! a particularly good (and usually surprising) move
!! an excellent move
? a bad move
?? a blunder
!? an interesting move that may not be best
?! a dubious move - one which may turn out to be bad
??? the sole domain of over-enthusiastic teenagers (e.g. LOLOLOLOMGOMGMGLOLZLOLZLOLZ....I'm sure you get the picture now)
So for a 'sicilian' 1.e4 c5 2.c4!?, c4 is an interesting move?
For me, c4 to defend against a sicilian is not the best of moves, but how interesting can it get. Maybe it should be 2.c4?! (dubious)
I read an article in Chess.com about the creator of chess notation, but I forgot his name. Does anyone know what it is?
Somewhere in Fine's Basic Chess Endings he gives a move !!!! (or was that !!!--it's been years lol)
That's the most I've ever seen.
Yes, I think on very special occasions ??? and !!! can be warranted.
Also possible (and I've seen from a couple of sources) is !?!?!? - a mindbogglingly crazy complicated move where it's impossible to tell what's going on. Usually pre-computer era ;)
I've seen the extra-weird ones used for illegal moves that went unnoticed (and were interesting/winning/etc), but can't think of any example right now.
Fine goes a bit crazy in BCE with the exclams but I suppose he had his own standards.
Thanks to all you guys.
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