Noticed something regarding cheating

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20th March 2009, 06:57am
#1
by bullrock
Columbia, South Carolina United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 132

I've noticed there are many threads about cheating.  I wanted to point out something I've noticed.  Whenever one of the staff mentions cheaters, it seems to always be in reference to the highest rated players on this site.  That makes sense; one who cheats consistently will certainly have a high rating.  I've not, though, seen a staff member mention the case where someone cheats only for one or two moves in a game.  I bet this type of cheating is FAR more common!  What do you think?  For the record, I have never and will never use a computer to give me a move in any of my games (except in a computer tournament of course).

20th March 2009, 07:09am
#2
by eddiewsox
Chicago United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 822

Yes, I've thought of this too, there's no way they could catch this.

20th March 2009, 08:23am
#3
by Daniel3
Canada
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 612

But it's so easy for a cheater to think: "Hmm, this move I just tried worked pretty well; but I'm stuck on this one. One more look won't hurt..." and on and on it goes until he plays every game with the help of a computer and chess.com's staff catches him.

I agree, though, that most cheaters are obviously going to have higher ratings. If someone has been consistently cheating (i.e. pretty much winning ALL of his games.), doesn't it make sense that his rating would go up and not down?

20th March 2009, 08:37am
#4
by kingforce
London United Kingdom
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 504

cheaters are simply people that don't like losing, there are many ways to cheat, and it is impossible to figure out, which move, unless you review about 50 games, in certain positions, the cheater may always cheat on a couple moves, that will be stronger than the usual moves, 

20th March 2009, 09:12am
#5
by bullrock
Columbia, South Carolina United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 132
vendfriender wrote:

 [you're] not getting much out of the game...


 There is at least one way to get something out of using computers to make your moves.  You can create a database of "best moves" against common moves in your favorite openings.  Then with programs like "Chess Position Trainer" you can train using these "best moves."  I do this very thing on a different chess server, but on that server I am labeled as a computer.

20th March 2009, 09:12am
#6
by bier
austin United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 85

There is an old addage that says cheaters never win.I take that to mean if you cheat then you really did not win,someone else won for you.Dont see the pride in that.But if thats what you want...have at it.

20th March 2009, 09:30am
#7
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 812

I suppose it would be seeable whether someone cheated for a couple of moves since these are likely to be at certain points in the game. If a player pulls out a brilliant sacrificial mate that even Masters can't see, chances are it is a computer.

20th March 2009, 10:15am
#8
by Momadu
San Francisco United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 101

I agree with the original post for the most part. I do not agree that there are no cheaters below say 2200. I believe that many times people feel wronged or that their opponent is cheating..and decide to "cheat back." There is so much paranoia regarding cheating, and sometimes it actually causes more.

20th March 2009, 10:46am
#9
by bosco
International
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 230

"i dunno,it's probably pretty hard to look through an entire game and find ONE move where the player cheated though."

 

unfortunataly, it is rather IMPOSSIBLE..

27th May 2009, 03:09pm
#10
by roofer71
pottery capitol United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 75

what are you suppossed to do if you think someones consistently cheating ? Could someone answer..

 

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