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16th December 2009, 03:23am
#1
by ErrantDeeds
London England
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 579

So, I just played the following game:

I wonder, can anyone recognise the game up to white's 14th move? The first to guess the real game gets a trophy from me. But, as the game required no thought on my part and was merely a reference to the said famous game (up until black's 14th, when I was on my own), have I cheated? I do feel rather guilty...
16th December 2009, 03:32am
#2
by kid_of_chess
Ottawa,Ontario Canada
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 7434

Morphy - Count Isouard/Duke of Brunswick

u shudnt feel gilty ur opponent decided to follow a famous game, and u played the best moves(which i guess were stored in ur head like they r in mine)

16th December 2009, 03:35am
#3
by ErrantDeeds
London England
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 579
kid_of_chess wrote:

Morphy - Count Isouard/Duke of Brunswick

u shudnt feel gilty ur opponent decided to follow a famous game, and u played the best moves(which i guess were stored in ur head like they r in mine)


 We have a winner! That is indeed the game. I couldn't quite believe what was happening, I had watched the game on a Youtube video only last week. I kept thinking, is this guy just following the opening explorer without looking at the result? Then he just blundered when it was too late and it was mate.

16th December 2009, 03:37am
#4
by kid_of_chess
Ottawa,Ontario Canada
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 7434

=) good job to remember what u learnt in a video =)

16th December 2009, 03:40am
#5
by ErrantDeeds
London England
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 579
kid_of_chess wrote:

=) good job to remember what u learnt in a video =)


 Cheers! Although, as kid_of_chess said, it's one of those games that sticks in your head, and I checked the database to see I wasn't doing anything stupid. I think 10. Nxb5 is a bit of a risk, but hell, if it's good enough for Morphy...

16th December 2009, 03:47am
#6
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2762
ErrantDeeds wrote:
but hell, if it's good enough for Morphy...

 Qoute of the Day!

(I hope I got the source right)

16th December 2009, 03:50am
#7
by ErrantDeeds
London England
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 579
farbror wrote:
ErrantDeeds wrote:
but hell, if it's good enough for Morphy...

 Qoute of the Day!

(I hope I got the source right)


 ...That one's for free :)

16th December 2009, 04:04am
#8
by nuclearturkey
United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 1313
ErrantDeeds wrote:

I think 10. Nxb5 is a bit of a risk


I think it's actually considered to be principled and sound...

16th December 2009, 04:09am
#9
by EnterTheDragon
St. Stephen, NB Canada
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 211

That must have been so much fun.  Great job Deeds!

16th December 2009, 04:44am
#10
by CarlMI
White Post, VA United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 934

Repeating games is far from unheard of in chess, even at the GM level.

16th December 2009, 04:51am
#11
by SerbianChessStar
Belgrade Serbia
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 4012

I bet that was your friend and you guys did this on purpose..

16th December 2009, 05:07am
#12
by TeslasLightning
United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 443

I had a friend once.....once.

16th December 2009, 05:18am
#13
by SerbianChessStar
Belgrade Serbia
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 4012
Hoklanie wrote:

I had a friend once.....once.


 me too.. once... sighs... :(

16th December 2009, 06:24am
#14
by ErrantDeeds
London England
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 579
SerbianChessStar wrote:

I bet that was your friend and you guys did this on purpose..


 Nope, just a slavish follower of the opening book, apparently.

16th December 2009, 06:34am
#15
by ASpieboy
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Canada
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 1726

I wouldn't call it cheating. You are allowed to follow a set opening, aren't you? This game is so famous that all chess players should know to avoid it.

16th December 2009, 06:44am
#16
by ErrantDeeds
London England
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 579

It does raise the question with me as to why anyone plays the Philidor defense. I've had a look at the stats:

White: 45.3% Draw: 28.2% Black: 26.5%. My own stats are even better. White seems to be doing very well after only four or five moves. Is this a bad opening, or are there hidden depths to it?

16th December 2009, 06:49am
#17
by PrawnEatsPrawn
Davy Jones' Locker England
Member Since: Sep 2009
Member Points: 11107
ErrantDeeds wrote:

It does raise the question with me as to why anyone plays the Philidor defense. I've had a look at the stats:

White: 45.3% Draw: 28.2% Black: 26.5%. My own stats are even better. White seems to be doing very well after only four or five moves. Is this a bad opening, or are there hidden depths to it?


I have played it occasionally when I'm fairly sure the opposition will play 3 d4 allowing 3 .... f5 (Philidor's Counter gambit) but got murdered by a move that didn't feature in any database after only 5 moves last time I played it. I'm probably going to retire the Philidor from my repertoire after that mugging by a lower rated player.

16th December 2009, 07:11am
#18
by zdravkoradeljic
Novi Travnik Bosnia-Herzegovina
Member Since: Dec 2009
Member Points: 222

hehe...i cant believe that there also have cheathers...

16th December 2009, 12:54pm
#19
by philidor_position
international International
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2986
ErrantDeeds wrote:

It does raise the question with me as to why anyone plays the Philidor defense. I've had a look at the stats:

White: 45.3% Draw: 28.2% Black: 26.5%. My own stats are even better. White seems to be doing very well after only four or five moves. Is this a bad opening, or are there hidden depths to it?


 I think those figures are a pretty good indication that the opening is weak.

16th December 2009, 01:08pm
#20
by Alphastar18
Groningen Netherlands
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2128

The Philidor is a principled opening; however, it is also used by lots of beginners who probably don't even know the name of the defense they're playing. But I suspect that is why it doesn't score so well.

3. ..Bg4? is such a typical beginner's mistake.

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