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OTB quick draw to clinch 1st/2nd


  • 14 months ago · Quote · #21

    LoveYouSoMuch

    of course it's fair, the top players worked their way up there and once they got their leading margin they should be allowed to do whatever they wish with it.

    if you didn't want to depend on them, you could try winning the previous rounds too like they did.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #22

    bobbyDK

    LoveYouSoMuch skrev:

    of course it's fair, the top players worked their way up there and once they got their leading margin they should be allowed to do whatever they wish with it.

    if you didn't want to depend on them, you could try winning the previous rounds too like they did.

    except I did not get the option to get a draw from either one of them....

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #23

    LoveYouSoMuch

    so you lost to them instead? or were you making your way to the top while they were already there?

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #24

    bobbyDK

    LoveYouSoMuch skrev:

    so you lost to them instead? or were you making your way to the top while they were already there?

    I meant from one of them. imagine if the second player was a played victory. and the player coming second won a lot other games. and we were very close and a victory and lose for him would get me second. and the best in the tournament just gave him a draw in last round so he would get second and he would secure his first place.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #25

    LoveYouSoMuch

    that's how things work.

    you know, if you don't want to depend on others, you should do the best regarding what's under your control, ie getting amazing results yourself.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #26

    bobbyDK

    would it also be the same if I was faced with one from my friends in the last round and usually I can win against him but if he wins he wins the tournament. so I just play a3 and resign.

    I think it is exactly the same. I would never do that but it is the same.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #27

    ponz111

    Here is what I think. If you have played well enough to be in a position to accept a draw either for clear first place [I have done this] or for a tie for first place it is entirely your perogrative what you will do as you have EARNED [by your good play] the right to make a decission which may only benefit you.  [rare I am in agreement with Reb! Surprised]

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #28

    bobbyDK

    ponz111 skrev:

    Here is what I think. If you have played well enough to be in a position to accept a draw either for clear first place [I have done this] or for a tie for first place it is entirely your perogrative what you will do as you have EARNED [by your good play] the right to make a decission which may only benefit you.  [rare I am in agreement with Reb! ]

    another person may have been in the same place in the  last round. so how you are paired decides whether or not you earned the second place?

    maybe the tournament doesn't even pair you with the same players.

    if there is 9 people in a tournament and 7 rounds not everybody can meet eachother.

    if the winner of the tournament meet you in the first round he may have just won but because you meet him in last round he gives you are draw because he already won.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #29

    ponz111

    bobby what is your point?  I have never been in a 7 round tournament with only 9 players. How about talking about real situations?

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #30

    bobbyDK

    ponz111 skrev:

    bobby what is your point?  I have never been in a 7 round tournament with only 9 players. How about talking about real situations?

    it is very real I have been to a lot of tournaments and in the tournament there may be 25 players but they are  split into  sections.

    the players are devided into 3 sections. 2 sections with 8 players and one group with 9 people. each play to win. all sorted by rating.

     

    before I took a break from chess I had a lot of otb games tournaments

    there is not many people showing up to a tournament. sometimes only 10 and sometimes 25 if we are lucky. if you play the switz system you can have them all in one big group but if you play monrad what we do most you are only a limited amount of people in a 7 round tournament.

    28 Gråsten/K 2011 07-04-2011 1606 -37 - 1434  
    27 Grenzturn 10-11 18-03-2011 1422 -54 - 1474  
    26 Hold 4hk 2010/1 15-03-2011 1422 -81 - 1528  
    25 Alssund/E 2010 07-12-2010 1422 144 - 1606  
    24 Tønder By 2010 08-11-2010 1422 11 - 1465  
    23 Slotsturn. 2010 11-11-2010 1422 32 1454    
    22 Løgumkloster 10 11-05-2010 1361 56 - 1422  
    21 Gråsten/K 2010 15-04-2010 1333 5 - 1366  
    20 Hold 4hk 09/10 14-03-2010 1402 32 - 1361  
    19 Alssund/F 2010 09-03-2010 1333 -4 1329    
    18 Alssund/E 2009 08-12-2009 1375 -22 - 1333  
    17 Slotsturn. 2009 12-11-2009 1375 -47 - 1355  
    16 Tønder By 2009 26-10-2009 1375 27 1402    
    15 Hold 4hk 2008/9 22-03-2009 1302 20 - 1375  
    14 Løgumkloster 09 19-05-2009 1319 36 1355    
    13 Alssund/F 2009 24-03-2009 1352 -20 - 1319  
    12 Gråsten Klub 09 19-03-2009 1352 -20 - 1339  
    11 Sønderjysk 2009 28-02-2009 1352 7 1359    
    10 Alssund/E 2008 09-12-2008 1302 43 - 1352  
    9 Slotsturn. 2008 20-11-2008 1302 16 - 1309  
    8 Tønder By 2008 17-11-2008 1302 -9 1293    
    7 Hold 4hk 2007/8 13-04-2008 1166 9 - 1302  
    6 Løgumkloster 08 13-05-2008 1207 54 - 1293  
    5 Sønderjysk 2008 17-04-2008 1137 36 - 1239  
    4 Alssund/F 2008 15-04-2008 1137 -4 - 1203  
    3 Gråsten Klub 08 13-03-2008 1137 70 1207    
    2 Slotsturn. 2007 22-11-2007 1200 -29 - 1137  
    1 Sønderjysk 2007 29-09-2007 1200 -34  

     

    my point it is unfair that a player can get a 2. place by agreeing to draw of course. tournaments should be decided by play and not by mastering tournaments.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #31

    ponz111

    So your theory is tournaments should not be decided by mastering tournaments?  But to master tournaments one thing you have to do is to play very well...

    I guess, I disagree.  If someone plays well enough to get 2nd place with a draw--more power to him.

    I think you are saying if you have played as well as this guy who can get 2nd place with a draw then that is unfair.  Actually it is probably  luck and sometime the situation will be the same but you may be the person who can get 2nd place with a draw?

    This is only mildly "unfair" and there is no solution as you cannot expect the first place guy to not accept a draw just so you have a chance for 2nd place.

    If you want to know "unfair" just see sometime what happened to me in  a couple of tournaments. Surprised


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