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27th July 2009, 01:11pm
#1
by redsoxfan33
United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 913

Okay so I am currently playing a game against a player named mohsen_A, and I am clearly in a winning position (check out my game against him). I could easily win, but there is one problem. He has put me in check 13 striaght times and counting, I reported him. He keeps asking for a draw, is this moral, what would you do in my situation?

27th July 2009, 01:15pm
#2
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 5828

Please say that this isn't a real post, and that you're joking?!

Surely, SURELY you haven't reported a guy for getting a draw from you. If he can keep checking you forever, the game is a draw. Simple.

27th July 2009, 01:20pm
#3
by Scarblac
Arnhem Netherlands
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 2009

It's simple -- if he can find a way to keep checking you, then you aren't in a winning position at all, it's drawn. If he can repeat the position three times, or reach fifty moves without pawn moves or captures, he can claim a draw. Probably he thinks he can do this, and to avoid the tedium of making fifty checks, he offers a draw.

If you can find a way to get out of the checks, then you can then try to win the game. If you can't find a way out, then I wonder why you're not accepting the draw.

All of this is perfectly normal chess. Beats me why you would report him.

27th July 2009, 01:24pm
#4
by Elubas
United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 7816

Lower rated players just get mad when it happens because they often have winning positions up a lot of material and think it's stupid to get checked over and over when it's clear the king is safe, it just has to keep moving to safety! But it's your job to avoid this, after all, checkmate ultimately wins the game, and so check forces you to react, so you have to make sure the king is always safe from too many checks. I think in a lot of Kasparov-Karpov matches, one player sacs a piece in a dull position to get prepetual check getting an easy draw.

27th July 2009, 01:26pm
#5
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

I hope he keeps it up.

27th July 2009, 01:28pm
#6
by redsoxfan33
United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 913

ill find a way out...

27th July 2009, 01:31pm
#7
by redsoxfan33
United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 913
Elubas wrote:

Lower rated players just get mad when it happens because they often have winning positions up a lot of material and think it's stupid to get checked over and over when it's clear the king is safe, it just has to keep moving to safety! But it's your job to avoid this, after all, checkmate ultimately wins the game, and so check forces you to react, so you have to make sure the king is always safe from too many checks. I think in a lot of Kasparov-Karpov matches, one player sacs a piece in a dull position to get prepetual check getting an easy draw.


 exactly, I am a low rated, inexperienced player

27th July 2009, 01:41pm
#8
by Bur_Oak
Indianapolis United States
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 499
eaglex wrote:

missed checkmate move 11


Not quite. The king had an escape square.

27th July 2009, 01:44pm
#9
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

In fact this game reminds me of the good old times as a 1100 player, lol. I couldn't resist.

27th July 2009, 02:10pm
#10
by pwnd247
Milton Keynes Great Britain
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 39

imoa! he doesnt have perpetual check

27th July 2009, 02:16pm
#11
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 5828

pwnd, you are breaking chess.com rules by giving information/assistance regarding a game in progress. I strongly suggest you delete your post ASAP.

27th July 2009, 02:19pm
#12
by redsoxfan33
United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 913

I am very sorry I brought this upon my opponent as well as myself, and will learn very much from this post, thanks to all that taught me this valuable lesson...

27th July 2009, 02:25pm
#13
by Nightshadow
Bangalore India
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 186

pwnd247.....the staff are going to pwn you for that and you will be so pwnd. lol

 

sorry, anyway.........now everytime a similar topic comes up we can just point them here instead of breaking our head trying to explain it.

 

Rich, your game was funny.... kept me laughing for quite a while!

27th July 2009, 02:52pm
#14
by krislwright
Winter Park, Florida United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 52
rich wrote:

In fact this game reminds me of the good old times as a 1100 player, lol. I couldn't resist.

 


 rich, how was this game not drawn by threefold repitition after move 21. ... Qa3+ (draw)???

27th July 2009, 02:58pm
#15
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

Because it wasn't!

27th July 2009, 03:03pm
#16
by razorblade12
Herefordshire United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 1196
krislwright wrote:
rich wrote:

In fact this game reminds me of the good old times as a 1100 player, lol. I couldn't resist.

 


 rich, how was this game not drawn by threefold repitition after move 21. ... Qa3+ (draw)???


the player doing all of the checks didnt claim a draw by threefold repetition, therefore it is not a draw!

27th July 2009, 03:16pm
#17
by tamdao
United States
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 77

rich- both times i went through that game kept me in stitches!  sooo funny!  you got anymore like that?  :D

27th July 2009, 03:20pm
#18
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

Not that I remember tam. But I've had some funny ones.

27th July 2009, 03:38pm
#19
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
Gotham United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 8170

Either player can claim a draw via threefold repetition.

At my level though, draws are usually agreed, and seldom claimed.

27th July 2009, 07:55pm
#20
by Gerik
Camping in the United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 777
rich wrote:

In fact this game reminds me of the good old times as a 1100 player, lol. I couldn't resist.

 

 


Wow that match lasted forever. it made me laugh out loud, rich.

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