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I don't disagree those traits are present, I just believe they are heavily overstated by poker players.
I will never agree that poker is a good game. The fact that someone could potentially win a world championship poker tournament by studying poker for 10 hours shows just how crappy it is.
Well "good" is subjective, so your opinion on that is about as valuable as your opinion on the color orange. I mean, it's cool and all, but it doesn't really change much.
As far as the winning the world poker championship with 10 hours of study, the problem is with the format of the championship tournament there, not the game itself. Any single event is far too short to properly sift through the various levels of skill in a poker tournament. That doesn't make it a bad game, just a different one.
I don't believe it's all subjective, really. Sure, someone can claim that flinging poo is a great game, but I would think they are crazy. This is an extreme, yet it demonstrates that there is some degree of objectivity in what makes a better game. In fact, if you asked most people to describe their idea of a great game, I'm betting that poker would not fit the description as well as many other common games.
As for your response about tournament format, that misses the point I was making.
Poker is a craft that makes money and pleases the body. Chess is an art that doesn't make money (except for the very top) and pleases the soul. I wouldn't play poker if chess (playing, not coaching - I'm a terrible speaker) could earn a living at my badish skill level (1600-ish FIDE/USCF, I guess).
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