Possible bug with computer analysis?

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3rd April 2009, 05:22pm
#1
by SukerPuncher333
Canada
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 581

I think there may be some bugs regarding the computer analysis. I recently submitted a game for analysis by the computer at the 2000 rating strength. Granted, 2000 is very weak for an analysis engine, but some of the suggested moves are so weak it has to be a bug. In particular, the computer repeatedly missed a mate-in-one. Flip through the diagram moves below to see what I mean.

3rd April 2009, 05:31pm
#2
by omgCHECKMATE
Sacramento United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 90

lol the computer must be tweaking out or something, although it is still mate in 1

3rd April 2009, 05:58pm
#3
by heavyop
Seattle United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 264

Yeah, I analyzed a game recently and it gave me a line that ended with me in checkmate, but it said that I had a decisive advantage.

3rd April 2009, 06:24pm
#4
by blakdrgn
the triangle of Bermuda
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 86

I played the computer on weak when it wasn't meant to mess around it actually missed some mating oportunities and instead of mate in one it decided to bring the knight in to mate which took additional moves to checkmate me. There was another game where I beat the computer and instead of sacrificing its bishop for my passed pawn/s it simply moved back and forth without aim until I queened both and mated with the queening of one of them.

Computers can't apply everything that reasonable players can and naturally do. I use the computer analysis light heartedly but seriously consider the alternative options and the mistakes and blunders it points out. There is something of value in it but don't take it too seriously - we are humans not machines.

3rd April 2009, 07:25pm
#5
by SukerPuncher333
Canada
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 581
blakdrgn wrote:

I played the computer on weak when it wasn't meant to mess around it actually missed some mating oportunities and instead of mate in one it decided to bring the knight in to mate which took additional moves to checkmate me. There was another game where I beat the computer and instead of sacrificing its bishop for my passed pawn/s it simply moved back and forth without aim until I queened both and mated with the queening of one of them.

Computers can't apply everything that reasonable players can and naturally do. I use the computer analysis light heartedly but seriously consider the alternative options and the mistakes and blunders it points out. There is something of value in it but don't take it too seriously - we are humans not machines.


You can actually play against the analysis computer? Note that I'm not talking about the Little Chess Partner (http://www.chess.com/play/computer.html), which is extremely weak. If you set that to "Easy" then it'll miss nearly everything. But the analysis computer is different -- it's supposed to be rated around 2000 for free members. For a 2000-rated computer to repeatedly miss a mate-in-one -- that has got to be a bug, not simply because the computer miscalculated.

3rd April 2009, 08:17pm
#6
by gxtmf1
Mundelein United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 1307

Same thing has happened here. A lot. 

3rd April 2009, 08:23pm
#7
by bondiggity
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 1571

limiting the analysis to 8 ply will result in some serious flaws. It can be used to point out obvious errors, but if you want better results there are many open source engines out there

3rd April 2009, 08:47pm
#8
by kissinger
seattle United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 456

You guys got it all wrong...chess.com outsources the analysis to humans.....they get minimum wage and must do 5 game analysis in an hour... i can't go into more detail..i'm taking a chance just revealing this....

4th April 2009, 03:53am
#9
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 812

I presume when you got that position you played Qh7# in your game. What did the computer say when it analysed that move. "This checkmate is a blunder!" Laughing

4th April 2009, 05:05pm
#10
by SukerPuncher333
Canada
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 581
OMGdidIrealyjustsact wrote:

I presume when you got that position you played Qh7# in your game. What did the computer say when it analysed that move. "This checkmate is a blunder!"


That position was obtained from a variation given by the computer. It wasn't actually reached in the game.

 

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