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@Tronchenbiais: Precisely. I told you, he's a parrot. Expecting a parrot to become a human is unreasonable. He can only repeat that it's a cheat because he says so, like a parrot, and when cornered he'll resort to personal attacks. There is no reason to continue writing to him as if he's a human. For all we know, he's actually a computer, or a robot, which has been programmed to say particular things in particular situations.
Anyways, playing moves in chess is cheating. Playing fast is cheating. Playing better than your opponent is cheating. And people below a certain rating should be banned from writing on this thread. All of the above go against the 'natural laws' of chess, and so they are cheating.
We all agree now.
It's allowed on chess.com. Play without your queen if you want, but that doesn't mean everyone else is allowed to use one!
I wouldn't call it cheating...but I do say it won't be around when playing real live chess not on the computer...I stick at it anyways. I'm always making bad moves by accident! Bleh.
Playing according to the rules cannot be regarded as "cheating." Now one could argue that a rule should be changed to improve the game. For some people who have not mastered the use of pre-move (myself included), eliminating the pre-move feature would be considered an improvement. There is probably a much larger fraction of the population, however, that would object to getting rid of pre-moves.
Actually, I wasn't even aware of the pre-move feature for several months after I started playing on chess.com. I noticed in some of my short time control games that my opponent was moving incredibly fast. Generally, it takes me at least 2-3 seconds to move even if I don't think about the move. Just the physical act of clicking the mouse (i.e., clicking on the piece, clicking on the square to move to, and then clicking on submit) can't be accomplished in less than 2-3 seconds for me. When I saw how fast my opponents were moving (almost instantaneously after my move), I at first thought that they were using a bot of some sort. However, when I talked to another chess player who played on chess.com, he assured me that they were probably "pre-moving." He then explained to me how premove works, but I have to admit that I never quite understood the mechanics of premove and have never made the effort to learn how to premove.
Not learning this skill puts me at a disadvantage to those who can premove, but I realy don't care. My chess rating for blitz and bullet would probably increase slightly if they removed the premove feature, but I would never argue that allowing premoves is tantamount to allowing "cheating."
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Honestly. If I play without my queen, then that doesn't mean that everyone else is allowed to use one? What the heck does that mean?
The fact is that those who use pre-moves are simply using an online cheat while playing chess. Pre-moving has absolutely no place in real chess and the use of pre-moves simply transforms online chess into somewhat of a joke.
As you stated in your own post, when you do not use pre-moves and your opponents do, you are at a disadvantage in a timed match. That is precisely the objective of the cheaters who use pre-moves late in a match to win timed victories.
There is a very simple solution to the problem of pre-moving as an online cheat. Players should have the option to disable the pre-moving function prior to a match and should have the option to issue challenges with the restriction that pre-moving is disabled.
If that change is made, then the cheaters who wish use pre-moving will be able to compete against other cheaters who use pre-moving. Meanwhile, those players who adhere to the Natural Rules of Chess will not have to play cheaters who use pre-moving.
The mindless morons who argue that pre-moving should continue to be allowed in its current form simply cannot reasonably argue that there should not be an option to disable pre-moving prior to matches. After all, they claimed that pre-moving does not give an unfair advantage to those who use pre-moving. If pre-moving cheaters are limited to challenging other cheaters, then they in fact will be competing on a more level playing field. No more will the pre-moving cheaters face opponents who refuse to cheat by pre-moving.
You need to learn to think better son. Your assertion that pre-moves is cheating has been debunked over and over. Read it until you understand it. Did you want to be stupid your whole life?
"The mindless morons who argue that pre-moving should continue to be allowed in its current form simply cannot reasonably argue that there should not be an option to disable pre-moving prior to matches."
Sure the smarter-than-you people can argue that. Nobody argues directly against having options, but there are online chess sites where people regularly have countless different time options. One guy is a 3/12 specialist and someone else is 1/20 etc.. And everyone sits around waiting for a game that is suitable to them. Too many options means that you either sit around and wait or play someone else's game. While there are a bunch of options here, there are about 5 time controls that are the vast majority of the games which seems about right.
if you disable premoves, my bullet would be about 1000, and my blitz 1800. and it is not cheating. what you said is basically saying you cant click on multiple pieces or click submit in blitz or online chess. also you said that playing 1 min is cheating because there are no 1 min tourneys.
I am sick of getting these silly posts by Ultimate Loser, learn the definition of cheating before spamming this topic. Or create your own site and play with yourself.
Well I guess everyone with brains agree with you. But using pre-moves makes sense in the late end-game. Chess.com has more than its' share of players who lost resign button altogether. In those games there are plenty on moves you can regardless what opponents moves dashing passed pawn to last row, tightening mating box with queen, ....
So it pays dividends to learn it. As it really take sno time apart setting it on from settings
On complex situation obviously useless
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