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Queen/Two Rooks


  • 14 months ago · Quote · #1

    ErrantDeeds

    The specifics of a position notwithstanding, what's generally considered stronger, a Queen or two Rooks?

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #2

    ilikeflags

    queen is 9 points.  two rooks are 10.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #3

    comradedew

    Queen

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #4

    ilikeflags

    i think more often than not, great players will give up their queen for 2 rooks.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #5

    N2UHC

    Often it's easier to checkmate with two rooks than it is one queen.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #6

    Bishop-Brask

    In a recent game my opponent gave his two rooks for my queen... ironically, in the endgame, I managed to make a classic two rook mate with his king against the board edge Smile

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #7

    ilikeflags

    that's the idea.  not sure there's irony in it.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #8

    Bishop-Brask

    He he, well I'm sure that my opponent had no such idea when he voluntarily initiated the trade...

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #9

    Dragec

    There is no answer. It all depends on a position, much like bishop vs. knight.
  • 14 months ago · Quote · #10

    Firefalcon

    ErrantDeeds wrote:

    The specifics of a position notwithstanding, what's generally considered stronger, a Queen or two Rooks?


    The more I play chess, the more I discover that there IS no such thing as "position nonwithstanding".  In my experience, a queen vs. two rooks depends entirely on the position.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #11

    Ziryab

    Forget the point-value system. This imbalance depends entirely on the position. One queen may be easier to handle than two rooks, but two rooks well coordinated are powerful.

    I remember watching this game unfold while it took place. Kramnik offered the whole world instruction in handling the rooks. The endgame starts at move 37.

     

     

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #12

    uhohspaghettio

    As a basic rule-of-thumb, the queen is better.This is true unless the board is pretty empty or will be soon and the rooks are well connected.

    In a fraction of positions it's about equal... the rooks can even be better in a small fraction of positions.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #13

    jonkingston

    I am glad i made you think.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #14

    ilikeflags

    i still say in general, 2 rooks over a queen.

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