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Query on Bucholz Tie break system for Swiss Chess Tourneys!


  • 16 months ago · Quote · #1

    Ahhca

    Hi friends,

    I understand that Bucholz system (where sum of all opponent's scores are added up to get a player's score) is one of the most effective and widely used Tie break system in Swiss Chess Tournaments.

    My doubt is, say in a 8 round Swiss Tournament, what happens if 2 players I met in rounds 2 and 3 withdraw from the rest of the tourney from round 4?

    How will this be taken into account while calculating my Bucholz score? Because it is obvious that such a player will lose out if the sum of all players are considered because 2 of the opponents wouldnt have scored for 5 rounds!

    Is there any rule or something in FIDE/USCF to factor this?

    Any suggestions/opinions will be very helpful.

     

    Thanks and RegardsSmile,

    Arun

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #2

    rooperi

    I've never thought about that. It seems like a good question.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #3

    rigamagician

    I think that if they have played less than half their games, their results are stricken from the record.  Perhaps you get a point for a bye, but a low tiebreak score.  Fischer withdrawing from Sousse Interzonal in 1967 is a famous example of a player who withdrew, although that was not a Swiss.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #4

    rigamagician

    I found the relevant passage in the FIDE Handbook:

    "Handling of unplayed games for calculation of Buchholz (Congress 2009)
    There are two points of view:

    1. for the player himself who gets a result by default or is absent
      A virtual opponent of the player is used to calculate the Buchholz of the player. A virtual  opponent has the same points at the beginning of the round and the result by default of a player is treated as a normal result, so a loss by default (or absence) is a win for the virtual opponent and vice versa. For each next round the virtual opponent gains half a point. 
    2. for the opponents in other rounds of the player who gets a result by default
      For reducing the consequence for the opponents when calculating Buchholz, each result By default of a player is counted as a half point (draw) for the Buchholz of the player’s opponents."
  • 14 months ago · Quote · #5

    rigamagician

    Another correction from the FIDE handbook:

    "If a player withdraws from a Swiss-system tournament the points scored by him and by his opponents shall remain in the cross-table for ranking purposes. Only games that are actually played are rated."

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #6

    echecs06

    That is a TD's nightmare, been there, done that! It is true that , in case of withdrawing players, their points and ratings remain in the final computation of the tie-breaker. People think it's unfair, but experience shows it is the most fair system to use.


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