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"Boring Openings"!!


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    kissinger

    Some call the King's Indian Attack opening, as well as the Colle, Catalan, London , "Boring " and "passive"  I don't feel that is fair or correct.....also i am not a "boring " person either..........thanks i just wanted to get that off my chest............ would you be my friend????

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    Minzz0

    LOL that was funny, the only opening I consider boring is the French but everything else is fine.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    Writch

    I had a boring opening for the longest time. But then I got it pierced* and now I got cool friends.

     

    * it got infected shortly after and healed funny, but that just makes it more interesting.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    Nytik

    Why is the London System boring or passive? The whole idea is quick development...

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    Nytik

    Well, if I ever play d4 OTB, I will be playing the London System, based on the fact that I've read 'Ideas Behind Modern Chess Openings'. But that doesn't mean I don't know much else about chess, Ozzie! Indeed, I actually have less experience in this system than other openings, and so, your assumption will be entirely false.

    Of course, this whole argument falls down if I know nothing about chess anyway.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    ericmittens

    It's considered boring because white has less of a position in the center than the queen's gambit lines. Also, even though his pieces may be active, his lack of space and potential pawn breaks make his positions rather passive. Basically white is playing as if he is black.

    Not that there's anything wrong with this! My attitude towards these openings has changed somewhat since listening to John Watson's interview of IM Cyrus Lakdawala. Basically white is trying to avoid theory and "just play chess". This is perfectly reasonable if you have a poor memory or just find studying opening theory boring. Personally as black I am always happy to see this stuff as it allows me to immediately play for the initiative and gain space, something you rarely get to do as black in the opening.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #9

    amaan2

    Well an amazing opening was

    Me vs. Fritz 11 on 2000

    This was a 16 move opening because it was a 16 move game

    I won in 16 moves

    My rating is 805

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #11

    Elubas

    I used to play the KIA, but it just doesn't feel right for white. Black can get any setup he wants to, in fact it may be best to avoid the reversed KID main lines. Also black can easily draw with ...dxe4 after white plays e4, in fact with a slight but safe edge. In the KID, white is already commited to d4, so he may as well build the center that black wants to counterattack. So sometimes the extra tempo is quite awkward and can allow the opponent whatever setup he chooses, usually pretty aggressive. The colle and london are tough to crack, but it's nice as black to fight for the initiative by playing ...c5 as if he is white. It's just too easy for black to go for an advantage but it can sometimes lead to interesting play and is fine below master level. The problem with the london is that the Bf4 is not always necessary and white usually needs to keep it safe with h3, so hopefully those moves don't turn out to be wasted. In the QG however, white immediately pressures the center and goes for e4 before developing the bishop at all, confident that he can do it quick enough. But I do think the london is perfectly fine otherwise.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #12

    Skwerly

    LOL Kepler - that was an amazing game!  You are correct, sir, it was *not* at all boring!  Thanks for the share :).

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #13

    Skwerly

    ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

    I sort of treat these "system" openings all the same -- I figure my opponent read a book or two on that "system" and doesn't really know much else about chess!

    I remember a story awhile back - a friend of mine was playing the Stonewall Attack, and then his opponent said "How to Think Ahead in Chess, eh?" -- and my friend became very flustered after that and lost soon. It's a psychological blow when you know that your opponent has read the entire book that you are basing your game on!


    LOL ouch, that's horrible!  I can only imagine the look on his face when he realized he really had very little chance of winning, or even really getting an edge.  That's classic man.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #15

    Elubas

    Well you get some advantage in the london instead of the slav since usually black can't soundly get out his bishop unless he gives up the center. But other than that, black can go for the initiative though because of white's smooth development it's probably equal. Why not play the queen's gambit though? I think it's the safest opening that gives white serious winning chances with good positional play. For leading GM's it's like win or draw, probably half win. Bf4 is more like 90% draw

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #16

    kissinger

    i wonder if sex foreplay openings can sometimes be classified as "boring" as chess openings sometimes are.....perhaps i digress, just thinking outloud.........

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #18

    Ricardo_Morro

    Personally I dislike sharp openings. I prefer "boring" openings where I get the chance to set up for an exciting middle game! Too often the sharp openings result in a boring middle game where I am a pawn behind and my opponent  grinds out a boring win in fifty or sixty moves. I'd rather have the slow build up and the big explosion. Though any way to win is a good one . . .

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #19

    Elubas

    I don't like sharp openings either.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #20

    ericmittens

    I for one am far too lazy to play anything that sharp.

    Calculating is for losers, real men play the French Laughing


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